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441 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | Tamara Brewington | 205692 | ||
continuation of Quote; wikipedia, Tamara “Mar Ephrem the Syrian said: When Noah awoke and was told what Canaan did. . .Noah said, ‘Cursed be Canaan and may God make his face black,’ and immediately the face of Canaan changed; so did of his father Ham, and their white faces became black and dark and their color changed.” Paul de Lagarde, Materialien zur Kritik und Geschichte des Pentateuchs (Leipzig, 1867), part II The Eastern Christian work, the Cave of Treasures (4th century), explicitly connects slavery with dark-skinned people: “When Noah awoke. . .he cursed him and said: ‘Cursed be Ham and may he be slave to his brothers’. . .and he became a slave, he and his lineage, namely the Egyptians, the Abyssinians, and the Indians. Indeed, Ham lost all sense of shame and he became black and was called shameless all the days of his life, forever.” La caverne des trésors: version Géorgienne, ed. Ciala Kourcikidze, trans. Jean-Pierre Mahe, Corpus scriptorium Christianorum orientalium 526-27, Scriptores Iberici 23-24 (Louvain, 1992-93), ch. 21, 38-39 (translation). Ishodad of Merv (Syrian Christian bishop of Hedhatha, 9th century): When Noah cursed Canaan, “instantly, by the force of the curse. . .his face and entire body became black [ukmotha]. This is the black color which has persisted in his descendents.” C. Van Den Eynde, Corpus scriptorium Christianorum orientalium 156, Scriptores Syri 75 (Louvain, 1955), p. 139. Eutychius, Alexandrian Melkite patriarch (d. 940): “Cursed be Ham and may he be a servant to his brothers… He himself and his descendants, who are the Egyptians, the Negroes, the Ethiopians and (it is said) the Barbari.” Patrologiae cursus completes…series Graeca, ed. J.P. Migne (Paris, 1857-66), Pococke’s (1658-59) translation of the Annales, 111.917B (sec. 41-43) Ibn al-Tayyib (Arabic Christian scholar, Baghdad, d. 1043): “The curse of Noah affected the posterity of Canaan who were killed by Joshua son of Nun. At the moment of the curse, Canaan’s body became black and the blackness spread out among them.” Joannes C.J. Sanders, Commentaire sur la Genèse, Corpus Scriptorum Christianorum Orientalium 274-275, Scriptores Arabici 24-25 (Louvain, 1967), 1:56 (text), 2:52-55 (translation). Bar Hebraeus (Syrian Christian scholar, 1226-86): “‘And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and showed [it] to his two brothers.’ That is…that Canaan was cursed and not Ham, and with the very curse he became black and the blackness was transmitted to his descendents…. And he said, ‘Cursed be Canaan! A servant of servants shall he be to his brothers.’” Sprengling and Graham, Barhebraeus’ Scholia on the Old Testament, pp. 40-41, to Gen 9:22. See also: Phillip Mayerson, “Anti-Black Sentiment in the Vitae Patrum”, Harvard Theological Review, vol. 71, 1978, pp. 304-311. According to Catholic mystic Anne Catherine Emmerich, "I saw the curse pronounced by Noah upon Ham moving toward the latter like a black cloud and obscuring him. His skin lost its whiteness, he grew darker. His sin was the sin of sacrilege, the sin of one who would forcibly enter the Ark of the Covenant. I saw a most corrupt race descend from Ham and sink deeper and deeper in darkness. I see that the black, idolatrous, stupid nations are the descendants of Ham. Their color is due, not to the rays of the sun, but to the dark source whence those degraded races sprang" 2. Pre-modern European interpretations. In the Middle Ages, European scholars of the Bible picked up on the Jewish Talmud idea of viewing the "sons of Ham" or Hamites as cursed, possibly "blackened" by their sins. Though early arguments to this effect were sporadic, they became increasingly common during the slave trade of the 18th and 19th Centuries. 5 The justification of slavery itself through the sins of Ham was well suited to the ideological interests of the elite; with the emergence of the slave trade, its racialized version justified the exploitation of a ready supply of African labour. This interpretation of Scripture was never adopted by the African Coptic Churches. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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442 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | Tamara Brewington | 205969 | ||
Dear Jim, I have read this whole long thread and something struck me that Val pointed out early on and here is a complete quote of her post that actually addressed the issue directly with scripture what God did in placing one man on the earth from whom came all the nations. Quote, Val; "The Bible and “Race” The Bible does not even use the word race in reference to people, but it does describe all human beings as being of “one blood” (Acts 17:26). This of course emphasizes that we are all related, as all humans are descendants of the first man, Adam (1 Corinthians 15:45), who was created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26–27).16 The Last Adam, Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:45) also became a descendant of Adam. Any descendant of Adam can be saved because our mutual relative by blood (Jesus Christ) died and rose again. This is why the gospel can (and should) be preached to all tribes and nations. - Answers in Genesis "The Bible and Race" Do you see what the Bilble says about where all peoples comes from, which would include all races as you described them in one of your posts as being the divisions of peoples? Whether we can begin tracing the actual break point for diversity as stemming from the descendants of Noah, or the Tower of Babel, the Bible says that God made every nation from one man, being Adam. I have been reading your posts on this and see one thing about what you are saying there; Quoting you; "The Theory that, " Adam who had the DNA for all the features we see in humankind". Cannot be backed up by scripture. There isn't even 1 scripture that you could misconstrue, to get to that point." I do believe that the Acts 17:26 scripture does provide Biblical evidence that from Adam's DNA, I like the word blood better, comes all nations. We don't have scritural proof of when God diversified the "races" the way you defined "races", all we have is conjecture about it by saying that when the Tower of Babel happened that it means the "races" got created. We have the wife of Moses who was a Cushite, a Ethiopian woman, descendants of Ham who settled in Ethiopia. Historicaly speaking Ethiopians are said to have been dark are named after Cush, the descendant of Ham. But Ham was born before the flood so then the diversity could be said to begin before the flood, which goes more to Adam having the blood of all the nations in him, then it does to DNA changing after the flood. In DNA dominant traits prevail between parents in offspring, at some point before the flood some dominant traits came about that originated in Adam, the father of everyone, in the parents of at least Ham to eventualy produce a Cushite, a darker skinned individual. We can't say that Adam's DNA did not play a part because all genes originate from him, that is scientific fact that is not contradicted by the Bible. That is just what I could see about this... God's Day To You, Tamara |
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443 | dead in christ shall rise first | 1 Thess 4:16 | Tamara Brewington | 203707 | ||
This means physical; the dead are already in heaven in spirit because II Corinthians 5:8 says, that Paul would rather be absent from the body and at home with Christ. What happens at the rapture is that the dead bodies will rise and be changed and reunited with the spirits of the saved who will be meeting them in the air with Christ. And then the live saints will be caught up into the air and changed as well. Try seeing the whole thing in context, see verses 15 and 17 to get the picture in full. | ||||||
444 | Is it a person or a thing that restrains | 2 Thess 2:6 | Tamara Brewington | 203737 | ||
This is the Holy Spirit doing the restraining. I can't find it right now, but in Revelation the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth at the beginning of the Great Tribulation and men become exceedingly evil and the Anti-Christ mentioned II Thessalonians 2:6 will have full power on the earth. | ||||||
445 | Apology to Lockman and Users | 1 Timothy | Tamara Brewington | 204846 | ||
Apology to the Lockman Foundation and the users of the Forum: Thank you for the reminder Doc, I was so busy gathering I forgot to site the all the various places this part came from and part of the second part too, but the very last part on the second post was all me. I aplogize to every one on the forum and to the Lockman Foundation. I got the majority of the quotes from wikipedia and the Catholic Enyclopedia. All of the parts at the end of the second post that had to do with interpretations whether allegorical or literal with the application was all me. God bless Tamara |
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446 | Apology to Lockman and Users | 1 Timothy | Tamara Brewington | 204848 | ||
Apology to the Lockman Foundation and the users of the Forum: Thank you for the reminder Doc, I was so busy gathering I forgot to site the all the various places this part came from and part of the second part too, but the very last part on the second post was all me. I aplogize to every one on the forum and to the Lockman Foundation. I got the majority of the quotes from wikipedia and the Catholic Enyclopedia. All of the parts at the end of the second post that had to do with interpretations whether allegorical or literal with the application was all me. God bless Tamara |
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447 | Apology to Lockman and Users | 1 Timothy | Tamara Brewington | 204847 | ||
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448 | Apology to Lockman and Users | 1 Timothy | Tamara Brewington | 204849 | ||
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449 | What is the Permanent Element? | 1 Tim 3:16 | Tamara Brewington | 205844 | ||
Dear Forum Members, What do you think the permanent element of Christianity should be, the element that prevails? 1.The church as an institution constitutes the permanent element in Christianity by virtue of its traditions. 2.The emotional experience of the Christian believer constitutes the permanent element in Christianity because the world is moving forward and everything in the Bible that was expressed as a belief in things to come does not have to come true in order to embrace the emotional experience of Christianity. 3.The moral lives of the Christian believers constitutes the permanent element in Christianity by the demonstration of adherence to the teachings of Jesus. 4.The doctrine found in the scriptures constitutes the permanent element in Christianity. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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450 | What is the Permanent Element? | 1 Tim 3:16 | Tamara Brewington | 205850 | ||
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451 | Why so some people treat pastors poorly? | 1 Tim 5:19 | Tamara Brewington | 203747 | ||
I Timothy 5:17-19 is the scripture, but remember they are no more special than any other part of the body and they are to held accountable to the body of Christ they are in. I did not see where it says not to attack the man of God, but check out David and Saul in I Samuel 24 and how David was reluctant to reach out his hand to harm God's former anointed even though God said, go ahead kill him if you will... | ||||||
452 | which apostle in the bible payed rent | 2 Timothy | Tamara Brewington | 203793 | ||
Paul supposedly rented a room at Rome during an imprisonment there. But you wil not find that in your Bible because it is not there. Theologians have deduced that this was so perhaps based on Eusubius who wrote about Paul and commentators are pretty much in agreement that this is a fact. You won't find this in Josephus either, both Eusubius and Josephus were historians at the time. Which is how we know how the aposltes died. | ||||||
453 | Embrace the truth and rejoice! | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 204470 | ||
I am not finding this verse you are looking for. I am sure you are paraphrasing it and some of the words might not be the same as in the Bible. I want you to try something new. I want you to try using the same tool I was just tyring to find your verse in. You have to be willing to do some foot work here yourself. None of us mind answering your questions, just keep asking them. Go to www.blueletterbible.com on the web and type in a phrase, or just one word and search diligently through all the verses in the Bible until you find what you are looking for. This takes time, but you will find it I can tell you you will. It is the same thing as trying to find it in the Concordance, it is the same amount of foot work, only quicker. God Bless, Tamara |
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454 | Embrace the truth and rejoice! | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 204483 | ||
Oh No my dear your question was crystal clear! Sometimes we can't come up with the right wording for a scriptur we know exists. Don't be discouraged now, it is out there, or in there rather. You will find it, in between things I am going to keep on searching for it, you just have to try and supplant some words for others there in your search, words that mean the same thing. Here is what you could try with that search engine, try typing in the word God. Now, granted that will take you to a whole lot of scripture, but if you are sure that the word God is in your scriputre, then you will find what you are looking for. So far I tried, the word rejoice, and the word truth and the word embrace. You can rule those out if you want too. You were really clear, just keep searching! God Bless, Tamara |
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455 | Embrace the truth and rejoice! | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 204484 | ||
Oh No my dear your question was crystal clear! Sometimes we can't come up with the right wording for a scriptur we know exists. Don't be discouraged now, it is out there, or in there rather. You will find it, in between things I am going to keep on searching for it, you just have to try and supplant some words for others there in your search, words that mean the same thing. Here is what you could try with that search engine, try typing in the word God. Now, granted that will take you to a whole lot of scripture, but if you are sure that the word God is in your scriputre, then you will find what you are looking for. So far I tried, the word rejoice, and the word truth and the word embrace. You can rule those out if you want too. You were really clear, just keep searching! God Bless, Tamara |
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456 | clarify ground rules, q incl midway | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 205176 | ||
Dear chessshores, You may use up to 5,000 characters per post, not 5,000 words, that is letters and punctuation, not words. Many users on the forum prefer brevity for the questions in order to leave visible page space for other unanswered and answered questions to appear to the naked eye on each of those pages. The guidelines for the forum say a number of things, and on of them is to avoid brevity as it leads to confusion. If you will notice, when you go to write a question, there is a message there telling you to include all the details of your question before posting it. There are going to be instances where the question will warrant an answer that include exegesis of the passage, or passages in question and my require that, in order for you to give an exegetical reply, that you cut and paste part of your answer into a next second reply, regardless of how carefully you write it or how clear it may be. Charismatic teachings largely have their basis in a theology that is not properly supported by a thorough exegesis of all of the passages on pneumatic infusion of believers in Acts. The subject of the gifts of tongues and prophecy have been discussed several times on the forum. Each time evidence was submitted by various members showing that the way in which these gifts are now being used and taught about is not necessarily supported by a thorough exegesis of Acts. The guidelines here require that we all sign up agreeing to adhere to a literal intrepretation of the Bible. When some scriptures are taken out of context and used to support a supposed Christian practice like the practices of some Charismatic churches, it will be addressed exegetically, theologically, doctrinally, and if it is found to be without support a continued pursuance of defending it will result in action on the part of the Lockman Foundation to make it come to screaching halt as a breaking of the guidelines has repeatedly occured. Simply typing in the words I am a Charismatic would not result in being ousted from the forum, but repeated refutation of sound doctrine based on sound exegesis would. Perhaps the words I am a Charismatic, was the revealing cap on a long chain of notes going back and forth on a subject and sound exhortation was not heeded over and over again. The Charismatics have some sound practices like extended and active praise and worship. They may have some other practices like falling out by falling backward; being slain in the spirit, which have absolutely no scriptual basis. They may have some other practices like the speaking of tongues being the only and first evidence that a person has received the holy spirit that, with a thorough exegesis of Acts, it will be seen that that practice happened to usher in 4 groups of folks into the kingdom of God and as well, that not all time in Acts did they speak in tongues as evidence that they had received the Holy Spirit, knocking that theory down. As well there are other passages which speak about receiving the Holy Spirit that say each does not have the same gift, also knocking that theory down. There is the Charismatic concept that one needs to be baptized by the Holy Spirt after accepting Christ, where scripture teaches that we receive the Holy Spirt at the moment of belief. Again there were 4 groups of folks who were being ushered into the body of Christ; the Jews, the Samaritans, the Gentiles and those who had the repentance and baptism of John. These groups all without exception received the Holy Spirit only when the Apostles and only the Apostles either laid hands on them, or preached to them. After these 4 groups were ushered into the kingdom of God every one that believed got the Holy Spirit right away, as it states in Ephesians 1:13. There is the practice of prophesying for which there is some scriptural support for still being around, but which has been grossly abused and is largely seen as either a dead gift, or a misused gift. Following Christ's golden rules will not ensure particaption here although it is proper. Following the many guide lines in here will. If you are really a more mature Christian than your friends who got banned from the forum, just follow the guide lines, practice grace and you should be just fine. Welcome to the forum! God's day to you, Tamara |
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457 | churches here predominantly Charismatic | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 205194 | ||
Dear chessshores, I understand your explanation of what kind os churches are prevelant in your country... Joyce Meyers is closely aligned with the Word of Faith teachers. She teaches that you take the word of God and release the promises of God into your life by the level of your faith in God and that you receive rhemas from God to direct you what God wants you to do. She does teach that you must line up your life to reflect the word of God or you will not be able to release the promises of God into your life. However, God makes promises based off His own Holy and sovereign will and it is not necessary for men to take the action of having strong enough faith before God will choose to act, which is what Joyce Meyer teaches. One of the worst teachings in Word of Faith movements is that God will not act until you do, that is not scripturally supportable at all. You have to twist the scriptures to get that. Joyce Meyer teaches folks to get control over their circumstances by lining their lives up to the word of God, no problem, but then she says God will not act on your behalf until you do, her exact words. Benny Hin has been debunked by many who left his minstry as a complete and utter fraud. I have seen Benny Him literally push people down to the ground because they did not get slain in the spirit when he went to touch their foreheads. There are true reports that those who thought they were healed by Benny Him have gone to the doctor and been told they are not at all healed. Benny Hin has a whole lot of money and many holdings and possessions gotten from the middle class and poor from all over the world who think that this false prophet is a sainted man offering healing and freedom from demons and he rarely offers salvation to the lost. The Amplified Bible is not a literal translation of the Bible and adds many words to the Greek and Hebrew that are not there changing the fundamental meaning of the texts. The Charismatic movement has indeed made and spread a great deal of money through out the world, their traditions and attempts to use charismatic gifts do not make them Bible based, the proper intrepretation of the Bible does and a proper application of it does. Just because a church is very large and practices being slain in the spirit with great care does not make that practice Biblical at all, it just makes it tradition. If the good Bishop meant that all Christians have gifts from the Holy Spirit and are therefore Charismatic he was correct, if he meant that all Christians are Charismatic because they all could speak in tongues if they but would he was wrong. The Charismatic movement has gone world wide, that does not mean it lines up with what the Bible teaches about gifts and the use of gifts. My web browser is on the fritz, so I am unable to give you a proper web site, sorry for that I pray someone else will attend to this. Charismatics traditionally through out the world have honored others in both helping the poor and in working in concert with those of other views and denominations to partner with them in reaching people. Evangelicals do not always partner to evangelize or help the poor or church plant with those whose views and beliefs they do not agree with because that is being unequally yoked in minsitry which the Bible teaches against. God's day to you, Tamara |
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458 | About the Forum and Bible Study. | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 205333 | ||
Dear Forum Members, Just a little reveiw of some of our gracious host's guidelines in brotherly love to make this a place to be respected and used for the edification of the whole body of Christ. Quote from, About the Forum - It's like a free study Bible with an unlimited margin, that contained helpful verse notes, and was continually expanding. A resource where you can access and/or contribute to a dynamic repository of verse notes. It's not a discussion group or topical survey, but an ever growing "expository repository" that gives the layman and scholar an opportunity to share truth and contribute wisdom. Postings must be Biblically based and not opposing the Bible's sole authority (sola Scriptura), Christianity, or the deity of Jesus Christ. Let's all respect using the whole counsel of scripture in order to measure what constitutes the interepretation of a passage. Quote, How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth, by Gordon D. Fee, Douglas Stuart, pg.23 par.3; Exegesis is the careful, systematic study of the Scripture to disover the original, intended meaning. Quote, continued, pg.24, par.1; But one does not have to be an expert to do good exegesis. Quote, continuation, pg. 26, par. 2,3; There are two basic kinds of questions one should ask of every biblical passage: those that relate to the context and those that relate to content. Quote, continuation pg.27, par.2,5; What is the author saying, and why does he or she say it right here? Having made that point, what is he or she saying next, and why? Quote, continuation, pg.29, par.5; The reason for not beginning in the here and now is that the only proper control for hermeneutics is to be found in the original intent of the biblical text. Quote, continuation, pg.74, par.3; You will recall from chapter 1 that we set out as a basic rule the premise that a text cannot mean what it never could have meant to its author of his or her readers. Please remember we are doing Bible study in order build an expository repository of truth and wisdom. God's Day To You. |
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459 | About the Forum and Bible Study. | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 205334 | ||
If I have all knowledge and have not love, I am as a resounding cymbal and I am nothing. | ||||||
460 | Criteria for Permanence of Doctrine? | 2 Tim 2:15 | Tamara Brewington | 205845 | ||
Dear Forum Members, What do you think should be the criteria for permanence of a doctrine, what things make a doctrine permanent? Please pick a doctrine to do this with, please dont' just give an opinion about doctrine in general. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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