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21 | Should fornicators be leaders in church | Eph 5:3 | Bereaniam | 177852 | ||
This does help Mark, thanks. His, Bereaniam |
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22 | Should fornicators be leaders in church | Not Specified | Bereaniam | 177845 | ||
A young lady who can sing like a lark, was our lead praise singer. She was already a husbandless single mother. She became pregnant again, but the pastors/elders allowed her to continue leading the praise service. The pastor's wife has a cousin who was divorced after having an affair with a man. He has remarried another woman, and he is now the lead praise singer. How should a Church, particularly the elders and/or the pastor handle this? Should 1 Cor5:1-7 be applied? His, Bereaniam |
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23 | Should fornicators be leaders in church | Ps 111:1 | Bereaniam | 177846 | ||
A young lady who can sing like a lark, was our lead praise singer. She was already a husbandless single mother. She became pregnant again, but the pastors/elders allowed her to continue leading the praise service. The pastor's wife has a cousin who was divorced after having an affair with a man. He has remarried another woman, and he is now the lead praise singer. How should a Church, particularly the elders and/or the pastor handle this? Should 1 Cor5:1-7 be applied? His, Bereaniam |
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24 | Should fornicators be leaders in church | Eph 5:3 | Bereaniam | 177848 | ||
A young lady who can sing like a lark, was our lead praise singer. She was already a husbandless single mother. She became pregnant again, but the pastors/elders allowed her to continue leading the praise service. The pastor's wife has a cousin who was divorced after having an affair with a man. He has remarried another woman, and he is now the lead praise singer. How should a Church, particularly the elders and/or the pastor handle this? Should 1 Cor5:1-7 be applied? His, Bereaniam |
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25 | Is it disrespectful to not use a title | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 177844 | ||
That's a great word, Mark. I pray that I can find a servant leader like your pastor. Thanks for the reply. His, Bereaniam |
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26 | Is it disrespectful to not use a title | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 177750 | ||
Hi Doc, your pontification some times transcends my comprehension. Am I to understand that you said the English language is limited in expressing respect for ministers? I beg to differ with you if that is what you meant. The English language gives "men of the cloth" too, too many mechanisms for self-aggrandizement. They have many titles in front of their names; they are usually the CEO of the Church, more honor goes to them than the feeble, weak ones in 1Cor 12:23,24. We are all members of the body of Christ...He is the head of the Church. Not one member is more important than the other. Actually, 1Tim 5:17 states that double honor should go to the elders that rule well. Do you equate the office of an elder to the spiritual gift of pastor? We have discussed this before, but the word "pastor(s)" only appears once in the NT. So, why do you call the minister where you worship "pastor"? What is the biblical reference? Would he (or you) think you were being disrespectful if you called him by his first name only? His, Bereaniam |
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27 | Is it disrespectful to not use a title | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 177748 | ||
Greetings WOS' The definition of "apostle" is messenger, he that is sent. Substituting that in the verse would look something like this: "...consider the (messenger, the one sent) and the High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus." Does that look like it can be used as a title? His, Bereaniam |
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28 | Is it disrespectful to not use a title | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 177744 | ||
Thanks for the reply Hank...I just wish that all ministers were as humble as yours. I am in the process of finding a Church where I can gather with other Believers. The ones that basically agree with my beliefs have ministers with the titles: bishop, reverend, or Dr. Ps 111:9 states, "...holy and reverend is His name". Why would a minister want to use what God said is His name? It's almost arrogant! I will keep looking. His, Bereaniam |
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29 | Is it disrespectful to not use a title | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 177737 | ||
Greetings Hank, Would it be disrespectful for you to call your pastor, "Dale", without saying Brother Dale? His, Bereaniam |
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30 | Is it disrespectful to not use a title | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 177736 | ||
You said you use the title "Pastor" for those in your own (tradition). What does that mean? What do you think Paul meant when Jesus told him to write, "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the (tradition) of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ, Col 2:8? In Him, Bereaniam |
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31 | Is it disrespectful to not use a title | Not Specified | Bereaniam | 177731 | ||
Greetings Brothers and Sisters, Is it disrespectful to call "men of the cloth" by their name without their "title? None of the names in the Bible have titles...it reads : Jeremiah, the prophet; Paul, the apostle; Philip, the evangelist, etc. When we see "Lord Jesus Christ", is "Lord" used as a title? Jesus was an apostle and a prophet, none of the writers who were inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote Apostle Jesus or Prophet Jesus. Thanks for a reply, Bereaniam |
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32 | Is it disrespectful to not use a title | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 177733 | ||
Greetings Brothers and Sisters, Is it disrespectful to call "men of the cloth" by their name without their "title? None of the names in the Bible have titles...it reads : Jeremiah, the prophet; Paul, the apostle; Philip, the evangelist, etc. When we see "Lord Jesus Christ", is "Lord" used as a title? Jesus was an apostle and a prophet, none of the writers who were inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote Apostle Jesus or Prophet Jesus. Thanks for a reply, Bereaniam |
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33 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176485 | ||
Tim, also please read what Steve (srbaegon) wrote below. Bereaniam |
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34 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176484 | ||
Tim, also please read what Steve wrote below. Bereaniam |
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35 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176483 | ||
Thanks Steve, I appreciate your input and insight. Bereaniam |
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36 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176482 | ||
Tim, Initially , I asked the question about the structure of the church because I was searching for an answer. I knew that this bible study forum would offer their expert insight and challenge me to study. Thank you so much for your patience with me. I just strive to be on the same page with my Father and Savior. (I pray the baby you went to visit, and the mom are healthy and happy). If you will read BradK posts...I like the concept he presents that a pastor/teacher is an iterant office just like the evangelist, prophet, and apostle. I never said deacon was synonymous with overseer. You said, "in Titus 1, overseer and elder seem to be listed as two separate offices." To further make my point about the words elder, overseer, bishop being synonyms...The KJV of the Bible uses bishop in Titus 1:7, the Amplified Bible uses bishop, the NAS version uses overseer, the NIV uses overseer, the Message Bible calls them church leaders. I have different versions of the Bible, but I use KJV most of the time. If Paul called for the elders of the church in Acts 20:17 to talk with them, and he is talking with them from verse 17-35, why do you think when he calls them overseers in verse 28 that he is talking to another group of people? You think that is a weak argument for saying elder is the same as overseer? The number of times we see words used in the Bible sometimes depends on what Concordance and what version of the Bible you are using. You said how pastors are selected is not given in the Bible...Eph 4:11,12 says He (Jesus) gave some...pastors for the perfecting of the saints. I believe that a pastor has to have a clear call from Jesus by the Holy Spirit to that ministry. How were you selected? You said the Bible does not say how many should oversee a church...no it doesn't. But to reiterate, it sure does make it clear that more than one person should be at the top. You said there are no commands to how many leaders and what kind of structure a church must have. Again, Paul says if you are spiritual, acknowledge that the things he writes to us are the commandments of God. 1Cor 14:37 Paul tells the Corinthians to let everything be done decently and in order. Our problem is that we are led by the flesh most of the time...not the Spirit. I believe, especially in America, many of us just do our own thing. The Holy Spirit is on a backburner. Is the present day church like the Laodicean Church? We think we're rich, have no need of anything...but we are actually poor, naked, wretched, left our first love. We need a revolution...then the revival can happen. May our Father bless you and the church where you gather with all spiritual blessings. Bereaniam |
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37 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176471 | ||
Tim, If you can not see that pastor, elder, overseer, presbytery are synonyms, we will never resolve this. Please do a word study on the latter list of terms and see that they are used interchangeably in the Bible. I do not know any other way to explain this to you. If someone else is reading this, please weigh in to help our brother Tim. I gave you a list of duties of the elders...what do you mean by "there are a few things...about the duties...based upon narrative passages." The "narrative passages" that you related to are scriptures... inspired Words of God. Paul said, "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord" 1Cor 14:37. Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles...that's you, unless you are a Jew. Paul was given the words, straight from Jesus, on how to set up the church. To reiterate, he said the elders would be overseers. He outlined the qualifications of the elders. Peter said elders would be overseers of the church. You have been hired, chosen, appointed, or called to be the "pastor" of the believers where you are, right? So, you are the overseer, right? What is your "exact" job description? You said, "God doesn't give us an exact job job description." If God calls someone into the ministry, I would think when you pray and ask Him what to do "exactly", He would tell you. How specific do you want Him to be? Just the words: oversee and feed my flock seem to cover a lot of ground and easy to understand. I am glad you have many leaders for your church...the problem is that you also have a pyramid...with only one person at the top. The leadership is not egalitarian. You said the devil is getting me hung up over a nonessential point. The government and the way God intends for His church to be set up is nonessential, Tim? We may as well throw out the Bible and just "do church" based on what we think and feel. Paul said let all things be done decently and in order 1Cor 14:40. Even America's founding fathers realized that we had to have an organized government for this country to function. Tim, I am submitted to our Father, and I am sure you are too...always ready to have the eyes of our understanding enlightened. We are in Him and He is in you and me, Bereaniam p.s. The word "pastors", plural only appears once in the NT. p.s. |
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38 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176468 | ||
Hello Kalos, my brother I am glad you have weighed in on this discussion. I do value your input. Sometimes I just assume too much! Did you read in my post that for the last 30 years or so, I can count on one hand the number of times I have missed a Sunday or Wednesday night service, Saturday night prayer, and Tuesday night Bible study. I do not assemble alone. But, I get your point. I was trying to stress the point that many people miss about "going to church", a building. I should have said, "We don't go to church...We are the church" . Thanks, my brother Bereaniam |
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39 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176408 | ||
Yes, 1st and 2Tim and Titus...right? Bereaniam |
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40 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176406 | ||
Hello Tim, I really do appreciate you taking the time to address this note. It is very important to me at this time. You are so very right about not going beyond what the Bible says. No, the Bible does not say how many pastors/bishops/elders/ presbytery/overseers (I see the latter as all being the same office...how about you?) one church should have...but it always alluded to them in the plural...not one. The structure shows that apostles appointed elders to oversee the church. Deacons were different from the pastors/bishops/overseers/presbytery/elders. I do not know who appointed the deacons, but they were part of the structure. The scriptures I gave: Acts 20:17,18,28 was to establish that they were always referred to in the plural. What do you mean there is nothing said about what their duties/ministry was? Their ministry was to feed (teach) the flock; be in prayer;oversee them; they were warned to keep out the judaizers; lay hands on the sick; purge out leaven (immorality) among them; judge the saints...not go to unjust judge; counselled the saints; made sure the gifts were used properly, oversaw the Lords Supper; oversaw the collection to send to other churches in need, I could go on and on about their duties. Tim, The scriptures do not say how many "pastors" to have, that would depend on how large the church was during the 1st Century, but it clearly says there was more than one elder/pastor. So, we can obey that much, even if it is just two pastors/elders...but two who have the rule over the flock...not one lording over the people making autocratic dictatorial decisions for the flock. And no, it does not say how long those pastors can stay. The problem with the church today is that many pastors are not called to the ministry...they submit a resume, go to tryouts, and are hired by a board, elders, deacons, or just start their own church. I am sorry I missed your point about the cultural thing. You are right our culture has and will change...but we must adhere to the Bible. The Bible is the inerrant, inspired Word of God. God knew in the 21st Century what the culture would be like. You may not get "hung up" over how many pastors one congregation should have...but I see it as heresy when there is only one pastor/bishop/presbytery/elder/overseer per church.The Bible clearly says there was more than one. You don't have to be concerned about my being driven away from the church. I don't go to church...I am the church. I do gather with other believers at least three times per week. I can count on one hand the number of times I have missed a Sunday or Wednesday night service in the last forty years..plus Saturday night prayer. satan is not my father...God is. For me to Live, is Christ. I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ lives in me. Now Tim, if you believe the scriptures say you can not be the only pastor at your church...how courageous can you be to allow one or more to equally oversee the flock? Search the scriptures Acts 11:30; 15:2, 4, 5, 22,23; 16:4; 21:18...pray for wisdom...seek counsel. Traditions of men started the one pastor, pyramid structure of the todays church. We are teaching for doctrine the commandments of men. Red flags do not go up for you when you call yourself a pastor and that word only appears one time in the NT? Love you in the Lord, Margaret |
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