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1 | MARK 16:16: Was it perverted? | Bible general Archive 2 | arrow1 | 113990 | ||
Peter spent 40 days with Jesus (acts chapter 1) learning about the Kingdom of God. Then in the very 1st sermon in scripture the first four words out of his mouth are "repent and be baptized". If you'll closely examine the conversions in Acts, what was there immediate response to the message?, then back up, what "must they have just been told in order to evoke that immediate response", you can go back to Peter's sermon each time for the answer. Obviously there were all told the same story, they all had the same response. Paul's teachings came much later in scripture. Most all of his letters are addressed to Christians that are already saved, thus in most cases he is not describing how to be saved(no need to) he is speaking of remaining faithful, or growing in their faith. Often times he is settling disputes that have arisen in the local church and trying to get them back on track. Thus mentioning baptism would often be redundant and serve no purpose. Paul himself, after meeting Jesus and fasting and praying 3 days, still was baptized to have his sins washed away. God did all the "work", Paul was simply responding to the Gospel. If you could simply view baptism as an act of faith, the same as believing and repenting are acts of faith, not works of the law, then you can take the rest the Bible literally. Instead, you come up with the phrase 'faith alone', (which is not in scripture) and say, "that is the doctrine, now let us go back and figure out a way to explain all those baptism scriptures that seem to contradict it". Why not just read the Bible, it says what it says in plain English, and simply accept. Added note.... Altar Calls, Sinners Prayer, Outward Sign of Inward Grace, these are concepts developed in just the last 200 years and were totally unknown before that time. Show me anyone, anywhere, who ever believed in those ideas during the 1st 1500 years of Christianity. I'll say thanks in advance for a careful and well thought out response. Sincerely, arrow1 |
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2 | MARK 16:16: Was it perverted? | Bible general Archive 2 | Hank | 114000 | ||
Arrow1: A number of us long-time veterans of this Forum have asked you in a kind and civil manner to give your campaign to promote baptism a rest. Emmaus very recently pointed out to you how lop-sided your subject matter really is: almost all your posts to date have been about baptism, a subject with which the archives of this Forum were already overflowing long before you came aboard. You choose to remain obscured under the cloak of anonymity, having not bothered to provide us in the User Profile with anything about yourself, your beliefs or denominational affiliation. If I were disposed to wager, however, I'd bet my horse and dog that you are a member of the denominational group known as the "Church of Christ," for nowhere in all Christendom do I know of any other group who are so adamant about salvific immersion that they come to this Forum and drive it bananas because they post on virtually nothing else. Clearly you are promoting a denominational bias when you engage in this type of one-sided posting, and promotion of denominational bias is strictly forbidden on the Forum and much the more when it is incessant and excessive, with both of which I accuse you. If you choose to ignore the counsel of Forum veteran users, please be aware that other remedies to stop this sort of abuse of the Forum are at our disposal. --Hank | ||||||