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1 | once "saved" always "saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Jesusman | 192408 | ||
For the record, Yes, I do believe that once one is genuinely saved, that he is always saved. Now .. which left field you are getting this from out of this passage I am still trying to figure out. Anyways, Read Matthew 25:31-33 carefully. Verse 31: Speaks of who is hosting this gathering. Said to be the Son of Man, that it will be at his "Glorious Throne". Verse 32: Says who is being gathered. "All the nations" are brought before him. This verse goes on to what will happen to them. He will separate them one from another. He uses the analogy of a shepherd tending his flock. Verse 33: How they are separated. Those who are his faithful, in other words "Saved", are counted as his "sheep" using the analogy, and will be placed on the right. Those who are not his faithful, in other words "Unsaved", are counted as "goats" using the analogy, and will be placed on the left. Now .. Verse 34 begins a new thought. He starts with this phrase "Then the King will say to those on his right ...". The first 3 verses of this passage already tells us that everyone was separated. Now he goes into why they were separated and how starting with verse 34. In verse 34, he is speaking directly to the ones on his right. He tells them what they will inherit in verse 34. Then beginning in verse 35, he goes through the ordeal of revealing what they did in life. Hence, as is reflected in Revelation 20, they were judged by their actions. This continues to Verse 41, where he begins a new train of throught. Now he is speaking to the others. Those on his left. He begins exactly as he did in verse 34. Telling us who he was speaking to and what they will inherit, in this case punishment in eternal fire. For the remainder of the chapter telling us what they did in life to deserve such. Hence, like with the ones on the right, they were judged by their actions. Now, it's nice that you bring up Romans 2:7. Did you read the context passage? Romans 2:1-16? The entire passage is about the Final judgement and how our actions will reflect upon it. Verse 5 of the passage tells that those who remain stubborn and unrepentant store up wrath and righteous judgement from God, such as is described what will happen to the ones on the left in Matthew 25. Another thing to note is that this passage immediately follows a passage in Romans that spells out a very detailed outline of a person's progress through sin and disobedience. In Romans 1:18-32, Paul writes about an unsaved person. That the Person is continuously given chances to repent, and if that person does not, that he will be granted what the person desires until finally he is brought to final judgement, death. Chapter 2 of romans is expanding on that thought. You then bring up Hebrews 1:26-27. Did you read also the context passage Hebrews 1:26-31? The author, through out the whole chapter, is speaking about the sarcifice made by christ on the cross in comparrison to the yearly ones made by the priests under the mosaic law. Look at verse 29. Here he basically clarifies what he said in verse 26 about the ones who recieve "the knowledge of truth". He gives a list of sins. 1) Trampling the son of God under his foot. 2) reguarded the blood of the covenant unclean. 3) and insulted the Spirit of Grace. This person basically is asking for God's judgement. The author is essentially saying that if you reject the sacrifice made by Christ, then you reject only sacrifice capable of saving you from death. All of these passages say the same basic thing. If you refuse the gift of Salvation from God, then you lose any and all chance at eternal life. Jesusman |
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2 | Can a Christian reject God's grace | NT general Archive 1 | JohnDiscipleship | 192410 | ||
The problem that I keep encountering in the reply to my question is, the substition of the word "saved" for the word "faithful" Faithful means to remain in to and stay true to what you have commited to do. So like a marriage it is possible to get married and then be unfaithful in the marrige. So in Christ we can be joined with Him through Grace which is a gift from God not because we have done anything to desrve it, then we are asked to remain faithful and pure in that relationship forsaking all other things. If we then reject Gods grace what is the result? Or do you believe once we are "saved" it is impossible to reject Gods grace? | ||||||
3 | Can a Christian reject God's grace | NT general Archive 1 | Jesusman | 192411 | ||
I believe it is impossible for one who is genuinely saved to reject God's Grace. In my mind, John 3:18 sums it up very clearly. "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." Jesusman |
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4 | Can a Christian reject God's grace | NT general Archive 1 | JohnDiscipleship | 192412 | ||
Good scripture! John 3 v21 says that "Whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God." I think that in my own life I have found that if my deeds don't line up with my faith God has convicted me of that fact (not condemned me with that fact) I have than had the choice whether I wanted to repent and change my ways or whether I want to reject the truth and continue doing what I now know to be wrong. I thank God that when he shows me something he also gives me a chance to change through Christs love I also thank God that he does not take away my free will. I know that for me I have not always repented when I know that I am wrong, but He has been Patient, I have learnt not to test God but to repent quickly. One time after I became a Christian I turned away from God and walked in a wilderness experience for 15yrs! I never want to reject Him again because I know how dark that time was!!! Hebrews 3v 12-19 | ||||||
5 | Can a Christian reject God's grace | NT general Archive 1 | Jesusman | 192415 | ||
Don't forget that God is also a parent. We don't call him "father" for no reason. Every parent expects, or should expect, a child to be rebellious and disobey from time to time. These times of rebelliousness happen. I have yet to meet a parent who suddenly ups and says "well, you're not my child anymore cause you didn't obey me." God, being as perfect as he is, would never do such a horrid thing to one of his children. Jesusman |
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6 | Can a Christian reject God's grace | NT general Archive 1 | JohnDiscipleship | 192418 | ||
God never rejects us but as rebelious children we can reject him. The prodigal Son chose to take His inheritence and squander it away. What do you think would have happened if he had never come home? Also unfaithful means that you were given something and then failed to do it, you can't be unfaithful to something that you don't have! | ||||||
7 | Can a Christian reject God's grace | NT general Archive 1 | Jesusman | 192426 | ||
But the key thing to remember about the Prodigal son is that there is never a time when he was not the son. He was always referred to as the son. Jesusman |
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8 | Can a Christian reject God's grace | NT general Archive 1 | JohnDiscipleship | 192435 | ||
Luke 15 v 24 For this son of mine was DEAD and he is alive again.... | ||||||