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1 | Overcome by the power of God? | Bible general Archive 1 | Alp7757 | 19629 | ||
John 18:4-8 Details Jesus' arrest. Of particular interest to me in vs 6 is that the detachment of troops and the priests' officers "drew back and fell to the ground" in response to Jesus responding "I am He" to their query about who Jesus of Nazareth is. Can someone explain more to me about this? Does this mean that these people experienced the power of God to the extent that they were, for lack of a better way of communicating it, slain in the spirit and still arrested Jesus? Is the interpretation that they were overcome by the power of God correct? | ||||||
2 | Overcome by the power of God? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 19652 | ||
Yes, welcome to the forum, Alp. I too was in the Army. We did take breaks. But, never at the point of seeing the enemy. We are not unionized. Also, we did it in an orderly fashion. Anyway, Jesus literally said "I am." I could be He was confirming His diety (Exo 3:14, John 8:58). The Jews may of cared, but the Romans were well trained and would never of fallen backward, except by His majesty. This is not in a orderly fashion. In Matthew 28:4 the trained guards couldn't handle what happened either. Another view, Searcher |
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3 | Overcome by the power of God? | Bible general Archive 1 | Jensen | 19710 | ||
Dear Steve...Forgive me if I misunderstand. I did find in my NIV where the men "..drew back and fell to the ground." And there is no capital "h" in v6. And in the NLT "...they all fell backward to the ground!" And there is no capital "h" in v6. And in the NASB "...they drew back and fell to the ground." And there is a capital "H" in v6. So did they fall backward or not? It is a time like this that I wish I could read the Greek. The difference in translations, in this case, may be more significant than I first thought. I study using the NIV and that is why I answered the way I did. I am not kidding about my Army story. But my experience differed in training versus combat duty. You are right if your experience was during peacetime. In a training situation there was no fooling around. But in a combat situation it was a tension reliever. Really. And Jesus was not the enemy in any case, He was the objective of their mission but no threat to them. Peter maybe :) More importantly, are we suggesting that this detachment went ahead with an arrest eventhough they had experienced the power of God? What then about Pauls jailer in Acts 16:29-30? He, the jailer, was also a trained Roman guard and was impressed by what he saw but he did not put Paul and Silas back in jail as would have been his duty. So it is difficult to say that Roman soldiers would "never" do this or that. Maybe John 18:4ff is not exhaustive enough to come to any conclusion. I do not know of course but I will follow this debate. God Bless...Jensen |
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4 | Overcome by the power of God? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 19721 | ||
Greetings Jensen! I can give you a very literal translation of the Greek text for John 18:6, but I'm not sure it will help you a lot. "Then, when He said to them, 'I am', they went unto the back and they fell to the ground." The phrase translated "they went unto the back" seems to have the meaning 'they turned back' or 'they withdrew'. The capital 'h' will depend upon how one reads the 'ego eimi'. It can means simply "I am (he)" in response to their statement. However, it is also used as a form of God's "I am" in Exodus. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Overcome by the power of God? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 19732 | ||
Tim, I missed your note ... I gave Jensen the literal. I hope I translated the Greek correctly. Searcher |
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6 | Overcome by the power of God? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 19735 | ||
Greetings Steve! Everything looked good except one minor point. 'Autois' is 'to them', not 'himself.' Thanks for sharing about your military service. Our country is in your debt, along with the many others who have served faithfully and well. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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