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1 | Biblical - women preachers/teachers??? | 1 Tim 2:12 | Pam D | 123699 | ||
2scholarly websites - different conclusions Dear Searcher, A very scholarly debate has been going on in the last several years regarding the equality of women in marriage, in teaching men, and whether the Bible teaches that woman can become pastors. Egalitarians believe that the bible teaches that marriage is mutual submission of the husband and wife to each other. They believe that woman can teach men, and that woman can be pastors. Their website is: www.CBEInternational.org Commplementarians believe that the bible teaches that woman are to be subject to their husbands, should NOT teach men, or become pastors. Their website is: www.cbmw.org. As a woman, I would really, really, REALLY like the Egalitarians to be right. Many of their arguments sound so convincing. They sound so fair. They agree with our current culture in this country regarding the equality of women. (In fact I’m sincerely hoping you or anyone reading this can show me that they are right) Unfortunately, I’m thinking that their interpretation of God’s word is incorrect. Of course there are many articles to read on both websites, each stating their own views and refuting the other's views. But one article kind of summed it up for me. May I suggest you read the article on www.cbmw.org titled “An Open Letter to Egalitarians” by Wayne Grudem in the Journal for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. Click on “Journal”, then click on “Browse the Journal Archives”, Scroll down to Vol 3 No.1 to read the article. I was surprised to find (after I did a search) that no one has mentioned either of these two websites or their organizations on this forum before. Blessings, Pam |
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2 | Biblical - women preachers/teachers??? | 1 Tim 2:12 | Searcher56 | 123711 | ||
Overseers and deacons (1 Tim 3:1-7, Tit 1:5-11) are masculine nouns, as well as pastors (Eph 4:11). If Egalitarians deny this - they have a big problem. The issue was women were taking on roles they should not have. It is an issue today. While they are equal, as well others (Gal 3:26-29), women may not teach men of any age. There appears to be an exception to women teaching men - Act 18:16 - Priscilla with her husband Aquila, two-to-one, taught Apollos Also, some use 2 John 1:1, 13, but we don't know who the lady was, or what role she had In Acts 2:17-18, women and men will prophecy (I believe this is a promise to Israel alone) ... and based on Titus 2:3-4, to other women. This also applies elsewhere (Rom 16:1, 13). If men were do what God wants, women would be more willing to do what He wants. |
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3 | Biblical - women preachers/teachers??? | 1 Tim 2:12 | BradK | 123732 | ||
Searcher, I think brother EdB made a good point as well as yourself! I agree based upon the grammar of the passages you cited. Since they are masculine- I believe it is as God intended. The relevant Doctrinal passages in 1 Timothy and Titus are all masculine nouns. I've never bought the "cultural" thing because of this. It becomes an issue of submission- not a popular word these days. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Biblical - women preachers/teachers??? | 1 Tim 2:12 | Morant61 | 123736 | ||
Greetings BradK! Might I add another perspective my friend? Certain words in Greek have a 'gender' associated with them. For instance, faith is a feminine noun. So, any pronoun that refers to faith will always be feminine, but that does not mean that only women can have faith. :-) Scripture speaks of 'he who belives'! Does this rule out women from believing simply because the pronoun is masculine? :-) Further, while inspired, the Apostles were part of a culture where women were not educated, and not allowed to take part in any kind of leadership. So, the 'masculine' pronouns may simply reflect the reality of the situation and not be proscriptive. There are only a handful and passages that 'seem' to mandate that women cannot preach or teach, but there are some other legitimate ways to translate these passage - for instances 'wives' as opposed to 'women'. My only point is that it is not as cut and dried as it may appear. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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