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1 | can a women preach and teach men | 1 Tim 2:12 | Hank | 85911 | ||
Scribe writes: "I look more at the fruit of peoples lives to tell if their doctrine is correct." ..... The Bereans "searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (Acts 17:11). "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves" (Matthew 7:15). The only infallible guide for the Christian faith and practice is God-breathed Scripture. It is profitable for doctrine (2 Timothy 3:16). The way men lead their lives is a poor standard by which to measure doctrine. I have known men who presented an outward appearance of moral uprightness, generosity, and kindness. But some were cult members, some agnostics, others atheists. Their lives were a singularly poor yardstick by which to measure whether their "doctrine" was correct. ...... One more point, if I may. How is it possible to look at a Lutheran and know for sure that he is "dead in his sins"? The way I see it, if one views it as unfair to call Joyce Meyer a false teacher, then it seems unfair to come down so hard on the poor Lutherans. Showing that Joyce Meyer teaches false doctrine is fairly easy. Showing that Lutherans, even if you limit them to the ones you know, are dead in their sins would, I submit, be considerably more difficult. To say that Joyce Meyer teaches false doctrine is not judging her salvation but evaluating her teaching. To say that "all Lutherans I know are dead in their sins" is not an evaluation of their teaching but a judgment call concerning their salvation. I surely believe that you did not really mean it so harshly as that. --Hank | ||||||
2 | can a women preach and teach men | 1 Tim 2:12 | Scribe | 85958 | ||
Part 1 of 2 I did a study on false teachers in the New Testament and I noticed that of the many verses on it most of them have a clear reference to teaching immorality, or that one can indulge in the flesh and still go to heaven. My wife grew up in the Lutheran church. My wife is well versed in scripture today. When she was born again, she could not find anyone in her church that had a clue what she was talking about. That speaks volumes about the “doctrine” going forth from that pulpit at least. But I have found her experience not uncommon to Lutheran churches in my area. She will also testify that the teaching there did suggest that the members who were committing adultery and other obvious sins would still go to heaven because they were baptized in the Lutheran church and a few other things they had “checked off” of what was required. But for the most part even if you asked those that kept the Lutheran rules and quoted the right sayings, if you asked them if they died right now if they would go to heaven, they could not answer in the affirmative with confidence but gave the same answers you get from anyone on the street, “I hope so” or “no one can be sure can they” This condition of the typical Lutheran Congregation speaks volumes about the doctrine of their pulpits. Now if this pastor can say that Joyce is a wandering star, quoting Jude of which wandering stars mentioned there are reserved for everlasting damnation, and if the reason he is so sure of her being a false teacher has to do with doctrine then let us look at what the scripture says about false teachers. If we are going to be like the Bereans and search the scriptures whether these things be so, let us search the scriptures on false teachers, not one of them mentions that if a teacher thinks that Jesus had to suffer in hell he is a false teacher. I don’t agree with that idea, I do not know what happened when Jesus desceneded and I think if the bible is silent about it we should be also, but nevertheless that is not the example the new testament gives as to what is a false teacher. And furthermore the New Testament does not leave it up to us to guess what is a false teacher. By the sound of most that accuse others of being false teachers in the Christian church they sound like they are saying if you do not agree with me on a doctrine you are a teacher of false doctrine. But thanks be to God he gives us plenty of detailed examples of what is a false teaching, I am going to post only a few to give an idea…. Revelation 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. Revelation 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! And the wandering stars Jude spoke of? What did they teach? Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. There are many many more, do a search and you will see there is a pattern. The false teacher that we have a biblical right to call a false teacher is not one that disagrees with our denomination on baptism or what happened to Jesus when he descended, but who teaches you can indulge in the flesh and still go to heaven. (continued on next post) |
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