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1 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | azurelaw | 180348 | ||
Dear Steve, Then, did Seth bear the image of God since Adam was made according to the image of God? Do you mean that before Adam's eating of the forbidden fruit, God's image was still reflected on him. However, after that, Adam beared no more of God's image but just a sinful image. Thus, Seth (since he was born after the fall) beared only the image of Adam? Thanks in advance for your elaboration Shalom Azure |
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2 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | jlhetrick | 180350 | ||
Azure, I believe that the point you are apparently trying to make is a worthy one to consider. Keeping within the context of this thread, allow me to offer some input. Consider the following. The first thing that must be considered regarding your question to Steve is, what exactly does it mean that Adam was "created in God's image"? While you are contemplating that, consider the consequences resulting from that creation's (Adam's) fall. Seth was begotten in Adam's image. What was that image? I suggest, the image of corrupt man. Adam's nature of sin that was imputed to Seth and all of humankind. And so the work of the Holy Spirit in those of us that are saved, is to renew us, creating within us once again the image of Christ. 1 Cor 15:46-49 46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. 47 The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. ESV Col 3:9-10 9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. ESV Again, in keeping with the thread context here also consider these verses. It seems like there is a lot said on the subject with very little reference to Scripture. 1 Cor 11:7-10 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. ESV Hope this helps contribute to the discussion. God bless, Jeff |
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3 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | azurelaw | 180420 | ||
Thanks Jeff, They are helful indeed. Can you explain to me "...because of the angels" (1 Cor 11:10)? I have no idea what did Paul mean on these few words in relation to former verses when I read this portion. Shalom Azure |
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4 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | jlhetrick | 180436 | ||
Hello Azure, No I can't explain the reference to "angels" in the passage. I have heard a variety of things said about it but can't say that I understand it. I have looked into it before, but still can't offer a sound explanation. I will offer some commentary from one of my favorite commentators. "She ought to have power on her head, because of the angels. Power, that is, a veil, the token, not of her having the power or superiority, but being under the power of her husband, subjected to him, and inferior to the other sex. Rebekah, when she met Isaac, and was delivering herself into his possession, put on her veil, in token of her subjection, Gen 24:65. Thus would the apostle have the women appear In Christian assemblies, even though they spoke there by inspiration, because of the angels, that is, say some, because of the evil angels. The woman was first in the transgression, being deceived by the devil (1 Tim 2:14), which increased her subjection to man, Gen 3:16. Now, believe evil angels will be sure to mix in all Christian assemblies, therefore should women wear the token of their shamefacedness and subjection, which in that age and country, was a veil. Others say because of the good angels. Jews and Christians have had an opinion that these ministering spirits are many of them present in their assemblies. Their presence should restrain Christians from all indecencies in the worship of God. Note, We should learn from all to behave in the public assemblies of divine worship so as to express a reverence for God, and a content and satisfaction with that rank in which he has placed us." (from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible: New Modern Edition, Electronic Database. Copyright © 1991 by Hendrickson Publishers, Inc.) I have also heard some who say that the reference to angels would be better translated "messangers" instead of angels and perhaps referring to visiting leaders or others who's tasks were to report back on the goings on they witnessed in the congregations. Can't be more specific than that as my memory fails me. You might do a search on the verse in the search window and find more said about it. There are at least a few on the Forum that are very knowledgeable regarding the orignial languages and the interpretation and tranlation processes. Hope this helps and God bless, Jeff |
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5 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | azurelaw | 180456 | ||
Dear Jeff, Thanks. I will further dig into it. Shalom Azure |
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