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1 | 3 baptisms or 1, or... | Col 2:12 | rferg | 57032 | ||
Greetings! I couldn't disagree with you more in regards to Mark 16:16. I believe the KJ version of the Bible is perfect, because I serve a God who is perfect. I believe he is giving a command to the eleven, dispite their unbeif and hardness of heart (he unbraids them)(14) 15 And he said unto them, God ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to evrey creature, 16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned. This is consistant with John 3:16 and Acts 2:41 If they truely believed they were baptized with water. Water is used in baptism from Matthew through acts for immersion. What position would the Israelite be in if they would have "believed" but not put the blood over their doors? When the death angle passed over they would have been dead! I also disagree with 1 Peter 3:21 if you start with verse 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God (The Family of God), being put to death in the flesh (physical body), but quickened by the Spirit(Jesus was quicked by the Spirit during baptism in water);19 by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometimes were disobedient, when once the longsuffereing of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, where in few, that is, 8 souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure where unto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but the answer of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Water in the above verses are the example of the meaning of what baptism he was referring to. I will use Jesus as my example!I know he was baptized in water and filled with the Holy Spirit during immersion. He wasn't baptized for sin but to recieve the Holy Spirit so he could give the gift to those who believe. |
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2 | question | Col 2:12 | mbooker | 57067 | ||
the amplified version of v18: For Christ [the Messiah Himself] died for sins once [6] for all, the Righteous for the unrighteous (the Just for the unjust, the Innocent for the guilty), that He might bring us to God. In His human body He was put to death, but He was made alive in the spirit, Is '(Jesus was quicked by the Spirit during baptism in water);' your addition? If it is, I have this question. At the time of Jesus's water baptism, wasn't he already 'alive in the spirit'? It is my understanding that Jesus was born spiritually alive and when he was made sin, he died spiritually, then physically. Colossians 1:18 refers to him as 'the firstborn from among the dead;'. He wasn't the first to be born from among the physically dead (the Shunammite's son (II Kings 4:8-37), Jairus's daughter(Mark 5:20-42 and Luke 8:41-56), Lazarus (John 11:1-44) ). So, was this verse referring to being born from among the spiritually dead? If my understanding is correct, how was he 'made alive in the spirit' at his water baptism if he was already alive in the spirit? Thanks in advance for your response :) |
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3 | question | Col 2:12 | dasev | 57097 | ||
Dear mbooker, with love i ask, arent there some things that we just do not need the answers to? isn't there enouhg to DO with what we clearly understand already? i wonder how much it would add to our abilities in God to have answers to these and many other questions. with affection, dasev | ||||||
4 | question | Col 2:12 | mbooker | 57099 | ||
Hi dasev I receive your question with love :). The reason I asked the question was because the poster said 'Jesus was quicked by the Spirit during baptism in water' and I don't have that understanding. If the poster is correct, I would like my understanding corrected. arent there some things that we just do not need the answers to? that could be but when I see something that seems contrary to what I believe, I need to know if what I believe needs adjusting or not. isn't there enouhg to DO with what we clearly understand already? for me, a big YES!!! :). And I also want to continue to 'increase in the knowledge of God' (Col 1:10), which means increase in the knowledge of the Word. And I don't impose my curosity on others. When I ask a question, I'm simply wanting to settle any questions I have in my mind. Whew!! Hope I wasn't too long winded... :) Abba Father Bless and Keep you... :) Meredith |
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