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1 | explain Kenosis | Phil 2:7 | coolmere | 109480 | ||
what is the word Kenosis referring to in the terms of this chapther? | ||||||
2 | explain Kenosis | Phil 2:7 | Emmaus | 109484 | ||
coolmere, Kenosis "The term is from the Greek verb kenoun,... Christ "emptied himself" (Greek: heaton ekenosen), taking the form of a slave, born in the likeness of humankind. Christ emptying of Himself or His humbled state is expressed in verses 6-8, and His exaltation in verse 9-11. The passive voice of the verb at verse 7 suggests Christ being rendered powerless, ineffective, just like any slave. The point here is that Christ's free choice to live as a slave, assuming the conditions of a slave when in reality He was the king, expresses the great love God the father has placed in His mission to draw back to Him all his creation through the forgiveness of sins by the work of the cross. Christ's self emptying consisted of His free renunciation (expressed in the fact of the Incarnation), by which He renounced His being God (in the form of being God), which meant renouncing the Divine Majesty and Dominion, and therefore taking on existence as God "in the form of a servant." Exactly what one makes of "traking the form[of a servant]" is still highly contestable. Suffice it to say that it included a full and real humanity, totally integrated with His divinty." Our Sunday Visitor's Catholic Encyclopedia, Rev Peter Stravinskas OSV, copyright 1991 Emmaus |
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3 | explain Kenosis | Phil 2:7 | Mommapbs | 109493 | ||
Greetings Emmaus, this is something I have been pondering and after reading abit I can see how heresy may creep into our thinking. In verse 6 Paul states,"although He existed in the form of God," how can God exist in anything but His form? I see His existence summed up in "I AM". He TOOK the form of a bond-servant. This, to me anyway, does not mean that He changed His form of Existence. you posted: therefore taking on existence as God "in the form of a servant." Simplistically, when I am at home, I am a wife and a mother. When I am at school I am a teacher. Do I change who I am because of the roles I "take on?" Does this make sense? I believe that God WITH us, The Word made flesh support what Paul is saying here. The emptying,(because He "did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped"), was part of God's methodology for carrying out His plan to redeem mankind Himself. Well, these are just my thoughts for now. I do believe we are saying the same thing. Blessings, mommapbs |
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4 | explain Kenosis | Phil 2:7 | Emmaus | 109502 | ||
Mommapbs, "Simplistically, when I am at home, I am a wife and a mother. When I am at school I am a teacher. Do I change who I am because of the roles I "take on?" Does this make sense?" It is important to distinguish between "form" and "substance." In your example, wife and mother are "forms." In substance you are a woman. Jeus in substance is God, who took on the "form" of a servant as opposed to the divine kingly form he word have in heaven, the "form" which he will take when he comes again. Of course I am not a theologian, so any improper formulations or errors are my responsibility alone. Emmaus |
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5 | explain Kenosis | Phil 2:7 | Mommapbs | 109504 | ||
Thanks - I see what you are saying. | ||||||