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1 | Who is God talking to? | Acts 2:17 | charis | 61016 | ||
Dear Searcher, Greetings again in Jesus' name! Honestly, who cares who Peter was talking to? Regarding the Bible, who is God talking to? I am of the opinion that the Lord is addressing me (and YOU!), and all that call upon His name! To say that the Peter's sermon on the day of Pentecost is not for us today, and that his quote from the prophet Joel is only for a certain race of people is ludicrous. This is akin to saying that the words of Jesus were only for His audience at any particular time. For instance, only Pharisees, only the Twelve, only the Jewish multitude, only hypocrites, only lepers, etc. The entire Bible is for Christians, now, and until He returns. I cannot compartmentalize parts of books or prophecy or sermons to suit my doctrine, but must use the whole counsel of God to teach me His ways. Either the Spirit of God is, and always has been, active in the church, or He is not. We cannot deny the Spirit to suit our needs, or because some abuse His name. Again I ask, "Do you mean that Peter's sermon on the Day of Pentecost was only for those of Jewish descent?" This is much more important than which parts of Joel are for a specific situation. Blessings and peace in Christ Jesus, charis |
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2 | Who is God talking to? | Acts 2:17 | Searcher56 | 61026 | ||
charis, we need to be careful when we read the Bible. The last part of Mark talks about picking up snakes and drinking poison. Is that for you, too? According to what you said, it is true ... so you should be able to do these things. All mankind is about everyone ... but the "your" only includes the Jews, tho Gentiles today prophesy, and maybe even have visions and dream. Searcher |
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3 | Who is God talking to? | Acts 2:17 | charis | 61070 | ||
Dear Searcher, Greetings in the name of Jesus! To answer your question, yes, if led by the Spirit with the purpose of glorifying God, we CAN pick up snakes and drink poison without harm. We can also see the sick recover, and many other things in Jesus' name. Was Peter's sermon for the church? Are you the one to judge which parts are for whom? Or does the Spirit judge these things? How can you say "your" is for the Jews only, BUT it includes us too? Yes, we DO have to be careful when we read the Bible! We must read with faith. We must also have the 'flexibility' (humility) to allow the Spirit of God to do as He pleases. When we say, "This part only applies to these people," we place a limitation on God according to our present understanding. Though I have some ideas about the 'application' of Bible passages, making 'absolute' statements sets me up for a fall. 'Only,' 'never,' 'always,' and such words are arrogance before God. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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4 | Who is God talking to? | Acts 2:17 | Searcher56 | 61074 | ||
charis, I get "your" for being the Jews, based on the prophecy in Joel, first ... and then to whom Peter was addressing. It is arrogance to say that a prophecy includes others than God intended. What was said at the end of Mark does not say "if led by the Spirit with the purpose of glorifying God" ... but, like the prophecy in Joel ... and that given to Sarah, Mary and other individuals are limited. I see that we will need to agree to disagree ... and wait until heaven to see you is right. Searcher |
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5 | Who is God talking to? | Acts 2:17 | charis | 61113 | ||
Dear Searcher, Blessings in Jesus' name! Indeed, my friend, we might just have to wait until heaven to see I is right! :-) Sorry, but I see the phrase you use, "agree to disagree" to be a cop-out. This thread began by my asking if this passage from Acts and the reference to Joel were signifying the "church age." I think it is pretty obvious to most of the subsequent posters that I was speaking of relevance to Christians now. A year and a half later, you said, "No, it's only for Isreal." Perhaps my questions have not been clear, but I must ask for clarification. Are you speaking of Israel (the audience at the time) as being the unregenerate race of people, who constantly spurned God's commandments, had many factions, selfish rulers, traditions in place of the word of God, who ignored the prophets, and even persecuted them, who were obstinate and sinful? If so, doesn't this ALSO sound like another religion we all know? Or are you saying that Peter was talking only for the benefit of 'Messianic Jews?' ('Jews-for-Jesus,' et al) Because I think we can agree that the New Testament is addressed to ALL that believe in Christ Jesus, regardless of race, name, tribe, or former religious affiliation. Because a certain passage is specifically addressed to a certain audience, are we (non-Jews) to simply ignore that passage? And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, "Be saved from this perverse generation!" Acts 2:40 NASB The above clearly is speaking to "them," the Jews, right? How about: "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:3 NASB It is rather obvious that Jesus is speaking to the (Jewish) disciples, leaders, multitude throughout the Gospels, so are the Beatitudes none of our business? The entire Sermon on the Mount, too? None of these were addressed to Greeks or Gentiles, as far as I can see. Paul very specifically spoke to the church in Galatia, Corinth, Rome, etc. The author of Hebrews wrote to, guess who? So I don't need those books in my Bible? And the Lord spoke to John in the Book of Revelation many 'specific' words of exhortation to different churches. Well, I've never even BEEN to Laodicea, so I can ignore that prophecy? Based on audience context, very little of the Bible is 'specifically' pertinent to ME! Yet I read and believe that ENTIRE Bible. Let us not so glibly assign large portions of Scripture to 'irrelevancy.' Searcher, believe it or not, I understand the concept of context. But to make statements such as you made, then just say, "Well, I see it this way, so let's agree to disagree," is not in keeping with the bulk of your excellent contribution to this forum. If this is the extent of your participation in this thread, I guess that's all I have to say, too. :-) Peace and joy in Christ Jesus, charis |
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6 | Who is God talking to? | Acts 2:17 | Searcher56 | 61175 | ||
Branches cut off, 144,000, "Israel" ... do they include the Gentiles? The end. | ||||||
7 | Who is God talking to? | Acts 2:17 | charis | 61181 | ||
Dear Searcher, Blessings in Jesus' name! No. But you nit-pick without answering the real question, "Who is God talking to?" In any case... "The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen." Revelation 22:21 NASB The end. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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