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1 | Is this heaven or the family? | John 14:2 | Morant61 | 61875 | ||
Greetings Aspilos! Do you mind if I jump in on this discussion? I would cast my vote with John 14:2 being a reference to Heaven. Here's why: 1) "I am going" in v. 20 indicates a physical journey. 2) V. 3 says that He will come back and take us with Him that we might be "WHERE" He is. "Where" is the paricle 'hupou', which has the basic meaning of a physical location. 3) V. 4 again speaks of a physical location by saying, 'You know the way to the place where I am going...'. I do agree with you that later in the chapter, Jesus speaks of indwelling believers. However, in those verses the phrases are always 'in me', ect.... They do not use particles which indicate physical locatations as John does in Jn. 14:1-4. Just my two cents my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is this heaven or the family? | John 14:2 | Aspilos | 61922 | ||
Tim, I have to make a bit of a correction. In my haste, I said that the Lord's statement, "where I am" is in our hearts and that's not entirely precise. In verse 10, Jesus says, "I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me" but goes on to say in ver 20 "On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you." I know I'm repeating myself here, but I thought I should make a correction. Bendiciones! Aspilos |
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3 | Is this heaven or the family? | John 14:2 | Morant61 | 61942 | ||
Greetings Aspilos! Thanks for the response! We are in full agree that the Father and the Son dwell within the temple of our bodies! :-) The only point we differ on is whether the 'place' referred to in John 14:2 is Heaven or not. One further note I would add is that 'place' or 'topos' is used 16 times in John. Other than John 14:2-3, which are the verses in dispute, the other 14 occurances all refer to a geographical location without exception. I would argue that the same would be true in John 14:2-3 as well. Well, I've got to get to bed! I'll chat with you later! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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