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1 | Jn 14:14 Why "ask Me," instead of "ask" | John 14:14 | Morant61 | 171872 | ||
Greetings Hank! Good points my friend! You are correct that there are some textual variants involved in John 14:14. May I address a couple of your points. 1) Though it has often been claimed that the newer Greek texts are primarily based upon two text, this simply isn't true. Modern Greek texts are ecclectic and use all available sources. For instance, in John 14:14, The Alexandrian texts strongly support 'me', while theByzantine texts are divided on the point. 2) Secondly, I was also taught that manuscripts need to be weighed, not simply counted. Allow me to illustrate this point. Let's suppose that both of us are hired to transcribe a text. You, being the literate person that you are, take great care in your transcription and produce a high quality work. On the other hand, I was working all night and botched my transcription. But, I then used my scanner and made 50 copies of my transcription. Many years later, our manuscripts are discovered. Whose would be more reliable? Would mine be, simply because there were 50 copies? ;-) This is not to say that all Byzantine Texts are of poor quality, but there is historical evidence that these texts were deliberately standardized. Well, I have to get to bed my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Jn 14:14 Why "ask Me," instead of "ask" | John 14:14 | mark d seyler | 171890 | ||
Hi Tim, Something you said intrigued me. You wrote that there is historical evidence that the Byzantine texts were "standardized". Would that be akin to what we have done in the modern day, in an effort to produce a text as much like the original as we believe possible? Have we not collected mss. and from them produced a couple of versions of "standardized" texts? What are your thoughts on that? Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | Jn 14:14 Why "ask Me," instead of "ask" | John 14:14 | Hank | 171892 | ||
Astute observation/question Mark! If indeed some effort was made of old (we lack absolute proof of that, I fancy) to standardize the texts of the Byzantine tradition, why should this become a key issue with, as well as a main talking point of criticism of the Byzantine Text by, the Alexandrian Text boys? They're doing the same thing, aren't they? After all the smoke has cleared away, it remains an incontrovertible fact that the Alexandrian Text tradition rests upon its two featured stars, both of the flawed, the Codex Sinaiticus and the Codex Vaticanus, and these two disagree with one another in divers places. So, if the traditional text boys made a concerted effort to standardize, the critical text boys are still working on trying to get their act together and their text standarized. When they look down their supercilious noses at us traditional text guys, isn't it a case of the pot calling the kettle black? After all, what's good for the goose is good for the gander -- or so "they" say! --Hank | ||||||