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1 | Why did Jesus encourage to betray? | John 13:27 | Morant61 | 145451 | ||
Greetings Angel! Here is something I posted about this issue sometime ago! *************************************** One item that always led me to believe that Judas did not "truly" repent is the account of his throwing the money into the temple in Mt. 27:5. This verse says, "So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself." The reason this is relevant is that the word for temple is 'naos.' 'Naos' referred to the Holy of Holies in the Temple, not just the temple precincts. Therefore, I see his act as one of defiance and rebellion, not remorse or repentance. I realize v. 3 does use a word for remorse or repentance. However, it is not the normal word and seems to be used more for a change of mind rather than what we think of as true repentance. Either way, contrast Judas with Peter. Both sinned against Christ, but their responses were totally different. Peter went on to productive ministry and service. Judas defied God by throwing the money in the 'naos' and then ending his life. Personally, I don't see Judas' actions as being consistent with repentance. Would Christ have forgiven him? I believe so, if he had repented. **************************************** The reason the word for 'temple' is important is because it was an act of extreme consequence to go into the Holy of Holies. In fact, it carried the death penalty for all but the high priest. Judas' act of throwing the money into this holy place was a very revealing act! :-( Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Why did Jesus encourage to betray? | John 13:27 | JCrichton | 145488 | ||
Hi, Tim Moran! I understand the argument... however people forget the fact that not one of the twelve had the spiritual acumen to see beyond the physicality of the moment... Judas, specially, had little if any true faith... Judas was remorseful and he initiated a restoration (buy back) of the Innocent Man... Judas' dealings was not in an obscure sector of town; he dealt directly with the chief priests and elders: 3When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty silver coins to the chief priests and the elders. 4“I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.” “What is that to us?” they replied. “That's your responsibility.” 5So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself. (Matthew 27:3-5) I have no knowledge of the Greek/Hebrew original texts so I cannot contest anything dealing with precise translations... however, it would seem implausible that a nobody like Judas would be allow to come close to the Holy of holies--at best, the temple guards would be in dereliction of duties; at worst, the chief priests and the elders would be guilty of conducting a murderous affair inside/about the Holy of holies! ...either way, I see Judas' act as that of impotence and irreconcilable guilt: he did all that he could do, yet he could not undo his error! Had Judas taken the ill-gotten silver and splurge on himself; then, coming out of the high (no not suggesting that he was using drugs--I am speaking metaphorically), attempt to negociate Christ's release with monies he did not have (the failure would have been totally his), then I would find that his feelings of regret were due to the short-lived meriment that the silver offered him, not to his realization that Jesus as Innocent... there would be no heartfelt repentance... there would be no actual anguish in his heart, mind and spirit... But Judas did not act like someone coming out of a drug-induced high--promising everyone that he/she would never do it again while hoping to lower anyone's guard enough to steal, beg or borrow the money for the very next high! Judas woke up, reached for those who were supposed to be Israel's spiritual leaders, declared that Jesus was innocent, sought to purchase His freedom (life) back... since he was not successful, he did not take the silver and drowned himself in alcohol, other drugs or sexual orgies... in his desperation, he rejected the ill-gained silver by throwing it at his enablers and finding that disposing of the silver was not enough, he killed himself. We can choose to interprete Scripture in a manner that denies Judas God's Mercy or we can choose to believe that God's Mercy knows no bounds and allow God, the only One who truly saw into Judas' heart and spirit, to determine his guilt or restoration! God Bless! Angel |
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3 | Why did Jesus encourage to betray? | John 13:27 | Morant61 | 145493 | ||
Greetings Angel! You wrote: "We can choose to interprete Scripture in a manner that denies Judas God's Mercy or we can choose to believe that God's Mercy knows no bounds and allow God, the only One who truly saw into Judas' heart and spirit, to determine his guilt or restoration!" Just a couple of quick comments! :-) 1) Scripture never specifically says what happened to Judas for eternity. So we are all just giving our opinion on the issue! ;-) 2) I think that you have set up a false "either or". It can be true that God's mercy knows no bounds, and at the same time, it can be true that Judas missed out on salvation. Certainly, God is the only judge of Judas. It is just that after reading all of the accounts and descriptions, I don't find any evidence that Judas repented. But, that is just my opinion! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Why did Jesus encourage to betray? | John 13:27 | JCrichton | 145528 | ||
Hi, Tim! Point 1: I agree with you completely! Point 2: I disagree with your "either or" conclusion... I have simply stated that much of the argument for Judas' damnation does not take into consideration much of the actual experience... I agree with your statement on God's mercy and Judas possible demise... yet, this is not how it has been expressed on this thread... the exposition has been that God destined Judas to fail than condemned him for it! I sought to introduce all the factors and the possibility that since Judas was destined to perform a horrific part in the Salvific Plan, God's Mercy would extend to him in accordance to his powerlessness when it came to fulfilling the prophecy of Jesus' betrayal! But, as you pointed out, not everyone is able to see (observe) Judas from my perspective! God Bless! Angel |
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