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1 | How do we receive Him? As Guest/Owner? | John 1:12 | Mommapbs | 163964 | ||
Thank you Jeff for your response. As I was contemplating this concept of receiving Christ as Guest/Owner a couple of verses came to mind. First, Mark 10:45 "the Son of Man did not come to be served. but to serve and to give His life as a ransom for many " which suggests to me that we are HIS guests, He serves us - He brings out His best - Himself. (Recall the woman at the well - a guest asks, an Owner gives - "if you knew Who I am, you would ask me" . . . Jesus gives us Living Water." ) Who are the "many" He gives His life for? The answer is in John 1:12 For as MANY as received Him". How? as THE Owner. You wrote: "He is the "owner" when you make Him so. I disagree. We don't "make" Him Owner, He IS the Owner of everthing! "The earth is the LORD'S, and all it contains,The world, and those who dwell in it."!Ps 24:1 We are His, yet some do not welcome His ownership. Ps 100:3 - It is He who hath made us and not we ourselves - this truth is contrary to the world's mentality as summed up in the pop slogan "You can do it". This also denies what Jesus said in John 15:5, "Apart from Me, you can do nothing! " Some may tell you that they believe that there are many paths to God. In reality, all roads lead to Him, but only one way leads to the Father (John 14:6)- "For as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to be called the children of God, even to those who believe in His name," It is He, the rightful Onwer of all, who will receive us in the end. Some as Father and others as the Judge. To some He will say, "enter into the joy of your Master" (Mt 25:23) Yet to others He will say, "I never knew you, depart from Me" (Mt 7:23) You, the guest, never received Me, The Owner of the house. However along with all this, I suspect that at times we get mixed up and think of Jesus as an invited Guest.(How many times do we try to bring out OUR best? - which apart from Him doing the work, is NEVER good enough!) He can become a "Guest" of our making . . . yet, this is pretty arrogant on our part - for Him to be OUR Guest, it would imply that we are the "owner" of the house; and according to the Scriptures above, we are not, He is. So when Jesus asks us to "receive Him", He's not asking as a guest, but as the owner of us, desiring to give us Himself, to use us for His purposes . . . which often times is to serve others! It is all about Him. My 2 cents fwiw. Blessings, mommapbs |
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2 | How do we receive Him? As Guest/Owner? | John 1:12 | DocTrinsograce | 163968 | ||
Dear Momma, Good comments! :-) I'm often irked at the frequent slogans we hear today telling people to "make Jesus Lord," or "make Jesus King of your life." As you point out, we have nothing to do with that. He is Lord, He is King, He is all these things in more. I have no power to make Him anything! I can only submit to the reality of what He already is! Thank you for your comments, ma'am. In Him, Doc |
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3 | How do we receive Him? As Guest/Owner? | John 1:12 | jlhetrick | 163969 | ||
Sorry you were irked Doc, I too am irked at the continuous iresponsible, unloving, unChrist-like, way that people respond indirectly to others on this forum. It's so unfortunate. Especially when they quote out of context of what the person actually wrote. This is shameful, and probably sinful as well. But you know what irks me the most? Those who use language like "we have nothing to do with that", or "He is Lord, He is King, He is all these things and more" "I have no power to make Him anything." Especially when they are unscriptural in their context. And the fact that some have so much biblical knowledge that has failed to turn into wisdom. This is unfortunate. Of course you have the power. To receive Him or reject Him. And don't try to throw some Calvin at this. I'm more interested in what the bible has to say about it, what Jesus had to say about it, and what the writer's of the scriptures had to say about it. There are those out there who would work to take away any and all individual responsibility. Those same people would also love to see the doctrin of free will turned on it's head. I'm glad the Lord made it clear to those who are willing to accept His word on it. Jeff |
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4 | How do we receive Him? As Guest/Owner? | John 1:12 | DocTrinsograce | 163970 | ||
Dear Jeff, I hadn't seen your response, only Momma's. I've been pretty busy lately. I'm taking time away from other things just to reply to my posts and e-mails. Consequently, I have to be selective about my reading. I don't often have the luxury to go past what is showing on the front page when I check SBF! Take care, son, with that sensitivity. It is not of virtuous origins either. :-) Hyper-calvinism is an unbiblical, theological perspective denying human responsibility. It is just as unbiblical as the more commonly held theological perspective that denies the Sovereignty of God. I am of neither persuasion. As to the Scriptures you requested, I've placed a few below. Christ is the Lord God (John 1:1). This cannot be earned, assigned, or imbued. It is an attribute. In Christology we understand that the offices of prophet, priest, and king are, indeed, declared by God the Father Himself at a moment in time in redemptive history. All authority flows from God. The only thing human beings can do is to believe -- heads, hearts, and habits -- the truth. This is made possible by the divine empowerment of the Holy Spirit. In Him, Doc "As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill." I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to Me, "You are My Son; today I have begotten You." (Psalms 2:6-7) He shall cry to Me, "You are my Father, my God, and the Rock of my salvation." And I will make Him the firstborn, the highest of the kings of the earth. My steadfast love I will keep for Him forever, and My covenant will stand firm for Him. (Psalms 89:26-28) They shall dwell in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children's children shall dwell there forever, and David My servant shall be their Prince forever. (Ezekiel 37:25) And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever. (Daniel 2:44) He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to Him the throne of His father David, and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end. (Luke 1:32-33) But of the Son He says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom." (Hebrews 1:8) And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me." (Matthew 28:18) |
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5 | How do we receive Him? As Guest/Owner? | John 1:12 | jlhetrick | 163980 | ||
Hello again Doc, It’s uncharacteristic of you to respond in a thread without first examining it fairly well, especially when there are only three posts in it. I say this to your credit. You must be a busy man. I’m glad to hear that you don’t ascribe to “hyper-Calvinism”. As for the “more commonly held theological perspective that denies the sovereignty of God”, would you be so kind as to give me additional feedback on this theology? I have little knowledge of it. I am aware that the lost may be of this persuasion, but I haven’t heard the teaching within the church. You mentioned in your post that you were listing the scriptures I requested? I didn’t request any. I guess that was just another example of your being to busy to read thoroughly. But the verses you listed made me feel like, perhaps, you found something in my post that made you question my belief in the sovereignty of God and His lordship and authority over all. Again, too busy to read and consider?? As for you referring to me as “son”. Well, I’ve seen you do that to others on the forum. I think it speaks for itself so no further comment is really necessary. Jeff |
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6 | How do we receive Him? As Guest/Owner? | John 1:12 | DocTrinsograce | 164009 | ||
Dear Jeff, Sorry... I still haven't gone back and read them. :-) From your previous post you wrote, "I'm more interested in what the bible has to say about it." I took this statement as a request for Scripture pertinent to the question of who conferred the powers of jurisdiction and kingship upon Jesus Christ. If they were of no value to you, perhaps God in His Providence will cause them to be of value to a third party. You wrote, "would you be so kind as to give me additional feedback on this theology?" If this is an effort to stir debate, it would be a violation of SBF guidelines for me to encourage it with a response. If it is an honest inquiry, I have to confess that I'm much more comfortable and better equipped to discuss the historical, orthodox Baptist theology of which I am a proponent. My apologies for stirring you to such excesses of feeling by my description of these doctrines. I used that particular endearing epithet to try to diffuse the antipathy expressed in your disavowal of my post. Please take it as nothing more than a benevolent encouragement to Titus 2:6. In Him, Doc |
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7 | How do we receive Him? As Guest/Owner? | John 1:12 | jlhetrick | 164012 | ||
Doc, Please tell me your joking. Was my request for additional feedback on the theology of denieing God's sovereignty an attempt to "stir debate". This would be " a violation of SBF guidelines". Again, please tell me your joking. I have to believe that you are. Son, you can't name a topic in your post and then insinuate that someone's request for additional information is an effort to stir debate. Besides Doc, you do enought stiring on your own. You say as much in the post I'm responding too. You seem to like it. But not to worry, I was not stirred to excess. I think you find it difficult to accept when you are shown to be lacking in one of your responses. It is all a part of the learning process. You will show true maturity and wisdom when you are able to accept redirection with some humility. I truly hopes this helps, Jeff |
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