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1 | Where is Jesus called "...the God"? | John 1:1 | Truthfinder | 90976 | ||
Hi Ray, You wrote: The Jehovah's Witness would not agree with us if we said as does John 1:2, "This One was in the beginning with God." Ray, Why did you say that? Quote me one Jehovah's Witness that would not agree that Jesus was in the beginning with God. I know you feel you are doing the right thing here but you are in error, as all witness believe that. That is a verse that clearly shows Jesus is not Almighty God, because he was "with" God. How can you be Almighty God if you as John 1:1 says you as Almighty God are with Almighty God? That too is the reason John 1:1 must be translated as "and the Word was a god". The "context" shows the Word was with Almighty God. Thus for two reasons, 1) the lack of the definite article and 2) the context, tells us that the translation "and the Word was a god" is better than Moffatt's, Schonfield's and Goodspeed's translations that say "and the Word was divine". 3) Another reason must be included; What does the rest of the Bible say about Jesus and Almighty God? This verse must agree with the whole Bible. Note what Vincent Taylor says: "Here, in the Prologue[of John's Gospel]the Word is said to be God, but as often observed, in contrast with the clause, 'the Word was with God', the definite article is not used(in the final clause). For this reason it is generally translated 'and the Word was divine'(Moffatt) or is not regarded as God in the absolute sense of the name. The New English Bible neatly paraphrases the phrase in the words 'and what God was,the Word was',....In neither passage[including 1:18]is Jesus unequivocally called God...."- Does the New Testament Call Jesus God?, Expository Times, 73, No.4(Jan.1962), p.118. You also wrote: Looking at verse 8 they would not see the difference between the man called John and the Man called Jesus. John 1:8, "That one [John the baptist] was not the Light, but came that he might bear witness of the Light. There [that One, He] was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man." Ray, where do you get your information? This again is not true. Of course Jehovah's Witnesses believe that. That's what the scriptures say isn't it? Well, if the Scriptures say that, then it must be true, through and through. Truthfinder |
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2 | Where is Jesus called "...the God"? | John 1:1 | Ray | 90984 | ||
Hi Truthfinder, I said the things I said from the outlook of being a "capitalizer". The Jehovah's Witness would see Jesus as a god and as "that one" if they looked at capitalization as interpretation. They see Jesus as the "light" of the world rather than as our latest NASB copyright interprets John 8:12. "Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the Light of the world;..." I can not agree that you are a "Truthfinder" when you do not recognize Jesus as the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one cometh unto the Father except through Him. He and the Father are one. The Holy Spirit is God. God is Spirit. The name given Jesus was Immanuel, meaning "God with us". Jesus laid aside His heavenly glory and came in the likeness of men. But John 1:14 says that "we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." He is the only begotten Son (God) who is in the bosom of the Father; in other words He and the Father are one. No man has seen God (who is Spirit) at any time but the Son has explained Him. I believe that you need to consider that Jesus was not just a man; He was a Man. He was not a god; He was God with us. He was not a son; He was the Son of God. He was not an angel; we can think of Him as the Angel of God. From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Where is Jesus called "...the God"? | John 1:1 | obstacle1 | 150026 | ||
"No man has seen God (who is Spirit) at any time but the Son has explained Him." I'm glad you quoted that text. It clearly explains NO ONE at ANY TIME has EVER seen God, bu they have seen Jesus. It tells how both are different. Rev. 3:14- "And to the angel of the congregation in Laodicea write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God." |
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