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1 | What does it mean to "fall away"? | Luke 8:13 | jlhetrick | 197427 | ||
NC- thanks for your response and clarification for my understanding. "...chew on the meat and spit out the bones." That's an excellent way of putting it and every time I hear it or read it I agree. As for your question to me the answer is a resounding No. With the exception of Scripture there is no inerrant writings and only those teachings that are 100 percent acurate with Scripture are 100 percent acurate and true. In the end, this includes those we agree with as well as those we might not. After all, unless one of us is perfect, neither of us have it all right. I believe our conflict of thinking, opinion, belief, may be in how we TREAT the "uninspired" writings and teachings of the Church fathers. I believe that when we teach that the proper approach to Bible study is to read it and completely rely on the Holy Ghost to give us interpretation, we teach something that is inconsistent with the clear plan of God for the Church. Can the Holy Ghost wholly give you or me the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth simply by our spending time alone with Him and the word? Of course we know He can. And there are, I'm inclinded to believe, circustances that would be special and unusual to you and me where He has and will. The bible, however, clearly presents a much different plan for the Church as an institution with Christ the Head. To not acknowledge this would be to not acknowledge Acts 13:1, 1 Cor 12:28-29, Eph 4:11 and the wider context in which these verses are found. On the other hand, when we take A verse out of it's context and develope an idea that it somehow negates those above mentioned verses we're already lost in our search for the truth. We need the context or we're lost. A case in point would be the oft quoted verse 1 John 2:27. If we're not understanding it in context we might be missing the truth teaching both warning against false teachers as well as the distinction made between mature believers verses immature ones. In fact, we might misinterpret the verse to mean that we are to trust our own, fallible hearts and minds as we believe we are being carried along by the Spirit in our reading and study of the Bible. We might also miss the fact that Scripture teaches overall that our hearts are "deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?" (Jer 17:9) A light shedding contrast would be 1 Cor 3:2 or Hebrews 5:12-13. We might miss the fact that God intends to have some as teachers and some as students while all are working together to "attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ" (Eph 4:13). So God has appointed some as teachers. Can't figure it any other way than to have the obvious fact that others are students. Hope this clears up where my thoughts were during my original post to you. God bless, Jeff |
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2 | What does it mean to "fall away"? | Luke 8:13 | New Creature | 197430 | ||
Jeff; I meant to include this in my last reply as well. "All synods or councils since the apostles' times, whether general or particular, may err, and many have erred; therefore they are not to be made the rule of faith or practice" - Westminster Confession Of Faith |
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3 | What does it mean to "fall away"? | Luke 8:13 | DocTrinsograce | 197431 | ||
Hi, NC... Great quote! The divines of the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith also placed the infallible word of God over their own understanding of it. That is part and parcel of sola Scriptura. Note that the divines of the Westminster Confession went also said: "It belongs to synods and councils, ministerially to determine controversies of faith, and cases of conscience; to set down rules and directions for the better ordering of the public worship of God, and government of his Church; to receive complaints in cases of maladministration, and authoritatively to determine the same; which decrees and determinations, *if consonant to the Word of God**, are to be received with reverence and submission; not only for their agreement with the Word, but also for the power whereby they are made, as being an ordinance of God appointed thereunto in His Word." --Westminster Confession of Faith (Chapter 31, Section 3) This is, of course, based on Ephesians 4. Let us be careful to quote within context, lest we give a less than truthful rendering of our opponents perspective. The Holy Spirit will, always, manifest Himself in a manner wholly consistent with righteousness. The Roman Catholic Church claims infallible views of an infallible Scripture. In Him, Doc |
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