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1 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | JRS | 26068 | ||
What did the angels sing at Jesus' birth? |
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2 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | kalos | 26492 | ||
I have not read every post in this thread. So if my answer here is a duplicate of what someone else already posted, I apologize. Correct me -- with Scriptural evidence -- if I am wrong, but I do not find one verse of Scripture that SAYS angels sing or sang. Another myth bites the dust! |
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3 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Ray | 26500 | ||
Hi kalos, I don't know what JRS has against singing for it is a big part of praising God as seen in Psalm 33, "Sing to Him a new song; Play skillfully with a shout of joy." The angels brought good news of a great joy. If the multitude of angels only spoke it I would hope that to be understood it would be a "unison" reading.:) Just because a verse doesn't include a fact doesn't mean that it wasn't there. I didn't find a verse that said that the angels sang but I didn't find one that said that they didn't sing either. I did read of shouts of joy in the Psalms and singing is close by. James 5:13 says, "Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing praises." One of the Psalms, and I can't find it right now, said, "sang praises,...saying..." So again, although Luke didn't say that they sang, it also didn't say that it was simply spoken. Later, Ray |
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4 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Makarios | 26518 | ||
Greetings Ray, Nowhere in Luke 2:14 does it say that angels sang anything. If you are saying that it is a fact that the angels sang in this verse, then you are adding your own interpretation into the text. If we take the Bible for what its worth and see what EXACTLY it says, then we do not find any singing in this verse, but we do find a glorious proclamation! Just because you cannot find a Bible Verse that says that angels do not sing does not in any way justify your belief that angels do in fact sing. You see? This kind of interpretation, assumption and speculation leads to all kinds of conclusions, but not on a conclusion that is based upon the text in the Bible. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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5 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Ray | 26712 | ||
Hi Nolan, Just what are we afraid of here? Why is it important to think that angels don't sing? What speculations and conclusions are you worried about? I don't think that Luke tells us that angels sang. But there is nothing there that would suggest that they just spoke. Are the voices capable of speech but not song? There is a joyful message and when I'm happy I break out in song. How about in Revelation 15:1-4? Are the seven angels included in the singing of the song of the Lamb, SAYING,...?" I haven't found the Psalm that I spoke to kalos about, but this Revelation verse is similar. The word singing is not found but that doesn't mean they just said the song. The singing is more the matter of notes and pitches of sound. What the Bible deals with is the message and the words spoken in song. Later, Ray |
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6 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Makarios | 26741 | ||
Greetings Ray! I am not "afraid" of anything, my friend! :-) I never said that angels were incapable of singing! I just cannot find it in the Bible. And where the Bible is silent is territory that we best not venture into, because that only invites speculation. No, I have no worries at all, my friend! :-) As for Revelation 15:1-4, we cannot conclude that the seven angels in verse 1 are, in fact, included in with "those who had been victorious over the beast". The Bible does not tell us so. In fact, nowhere in the Bible can I find an angel that holds a harp! This is another "myth": that angels fly around in heaven holding harps. I can find an angel with a trumpet, but not a harp. In every case where an angel "speaks" in the Bible, it is always a pronouncement! It is always a proclamation that serves to benefit the humans that can "hear" them! Whenever an angel speaks, they proclaim a truth that was dictated by the Lord Himself, since they are His messengers. However, we humans, who are made a little lower than the angels, are to sing and sing all the more!! Yes, humans are supposed to give praise to God in singing! The Bible is literally filled with references that direct humans to praise God with song and instrument. And this glorifies the Lord! He is pleased with the sound of our praise to Him. But even with all our efforts in singing and making songs, I cannot find one verse in the Bible that describes angels giving glory to God by singing. Perhaps angels have a "higher" way of exalting their Creator than just by singing! We would not know until we get there. So Ray, as you can see, I am not "taking away" anything at all from angels by suggesting that they don't sing in the Bible. But what I am saying is that angels "proclaim" truth to man, which is evidenced in many places in Scripture. Also, the Bible does not give any support for the idea that angels join humans in songs of praise to God. Angels COULD be able to do this, but the Bible does not tell us so. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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7 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Ray | 26877 | ||
Hi Nolan, If you think that you can get away from singing, and saying, by using the word "proclaiming" let me remind you of Psalm 96. "Sing to the Lord a new song; Sing to the Lord, all the earth. Sing to the Lord, bless His name; Proclaim good tidings of His salvation from day to day." Here we have sing and proclaim in the same sentence. As far as Revelation 15 is concerned, I believe that the angels and "those who had come off victorious from the beast" were together in the sanctuary in heaven. The words "in heaven" are in verses 1 and 5 and the harps, angels, and those others are all there inbetween. And then the angels come out of the sanctuary or temple of the tabernacle of testimony in heaven. So the main characters are the angels rather than "those" others. If that is the case then I could very logically infer that the harp holders/ players would have accompanied the singing angels. I don't believe that that is a "myth"interpretation of scripture.:) Also, Searcher, I don't believe that my interpretation would be a (mis)interpetion od Scripture. :) Luke 2:10 speaks of good news of a great joy, the angel says. Psalm 96:2 says, "Sing to the Lord, bless His name; Proclaim good tidings..." Psalm 95:1,2 says, "O come, let us sing for joy to the Lord; Let us shout joyfully to the rock of our salvation. Let us come before His presence with thanksgiving; [Or, a song of thanksgiving]; Let us shout joyfully to Him with psalms. [Or,songs (with instrumental accompaniment)]. When I am in the sanctuary I don't want to see a multitude of angels or even seven angels acting like they can't sing. I want to hear a joyful noise at the very least, and shouts of joy to the rock of our salvation, singing for joy to the Lord, for He is a great King. Later, Ray |
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8 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Makarios | 26898 | ||
Greetings Ray! You still have not proved anything, my friend! The facts remain: 1) Nowhere does the Bible state that angels sing. 2) Nowhere is there a verse that states that an angel ever held a harp. Ray, you can jump to any conclusion that you want to and believe whatever you want to, my friend. However, you just cannot get around these two facts, unless you can show me a verse that makes your case a little more decisive. As I've said before, Ray, I am not trying to "get away" from anything! :-) I am also not "afraid" of anything! Why do you feel so strongly that angels should be able to sing? You truly have me puzzled, my friend. I disagree with you, and I believe that what the Bible is silent on should not be speculated on. I pray that this post does not "inspire" you to go on a "capitalization" rampage with angels... :-) Blessings to you, Nolan |
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9 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Ray | 26928 | ||
Hi Nolan,You ask me why I feel strongly that angels should be able to sing. I would guess that it is because I love to sing. I have all my life and I love to sing gospel songs with my brothers. I want to be able to sing in heaven. I would not think it heaven if there were not singing and music offered to God. I believe God loves music for it is a universal language for everyone. When I compare 1 Chronicles 16:36 and 2 Chronicles 20:21 I see that we should always praise Him in song for "Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel, From everlasting even to everlasting." And, "Give thanks to the Lord, for His lovingkindness is everlasting." The words thanksgiving, praise, and joy are all connected to singing. I see no reason for the angels' singing voices to be silent. Jehoshaphat in 2 Chronicles 20:21 "appointed those who sang to the Lord and those who praised Him in holy attire". I see no reason why the angels could not be God's appointed music makers. If that is too much speculation for you, don't worry about it, that belief shouldn't keep anyone from heaven. You are correct that no angel is mentioned holding a harp, but in the Revelation passage I have put them in the same sanctuary with a multitude of them. I don't have to win this discussion for it truly is not a matter of salvation. In the Luke 2 passage the words of joy and praise are there and for me singing would be included. As far as capitalization is concerned, the only "sign" I need and it is "for you: you will find a Baby wrapped in cloths, and lying in a manger." This Baby was God for the angels began praising God at this sign. Later, Ray |
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10 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Love Fountain | 26934 | ||
Dear Ray, Excuse me for butting in. I am newer here and have spent most of the time reading and not writing, but this time I think I may be able to help. Please see Rev 11:11, where satan is referred to as the angel of the bottomless pit and then see Isa 14:12, where satan is referred to as lucifer, which means morning star and then see Job 38:7, where the morning stars sang together. This should help you with singing angels. Bless you, Love Fountain PS - Please consider as a suggestion, not capitalizing any name of satan or anything that has to do with him, I believe he does not deserve a capitalized recognition. What do you think? |
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11 | Matt. Chapter 1 | Luke 2:14 | Ray | 26980 | ||
Hi Love Fountain, Anyone is welcome to butt in. Thanks for contributing. My NKJ Study Bible says that Lucifer is literally Day Star. Are all the angels called morning stars? I'm not sure about angels being called sons of God, either. Perhaps Nolan will respond to your contribution to the discussion. The Job passage is another one that points out the near proximity of singing and shouts of joy in any case. Similarly, a few verses before your Isaiah reference, there is the mention of shouts of joy, rejoicing, and the trees, SAYING..." Trees have been known to sing in Scripture. You asked me what I think about capitalizing names of satan. I think that names should be capitalized. I'm not going to correct anyone for making names for the devil in the lower case for I hear where you are coming from, and I agree. But for grammar correctness, I would see his name capitalized, just as I capitalize my name. Later, Ray |
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