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1 | Does Psalms 22 stand up to the skeptics? | Ps 22:16 | Mandy33319 | 52879 | ||
Last part: Joe said, in summation: Your fellow debaters are really amateurs who do not know how to read literature very well at all, much less the Bible. If they are looking for reasons to rebel against God, they will always find them, no matter how feeble they may be. She said, in summation: Odd, that I could have written the above for you. How’d I know you’d end it with the condescending you began with? You “assume” they (and I?) are looking for reasons to “rebel” against God. That kind of assumption assumes that there is a God, your god specifically. Bad assumption. My “pals” as you call them, might inquire, “Which God?” The one who tells the pope what to do and say? Is that the one? The one (Allah) who the Muslims say is Great? The Jewish God, you know, the God who is still waiting for his own Messiah to come? The Hindu deity? Then, there is the God of the Mormons? Can you be more specific? The God of the Jehovah Witnesses; there’s a good one. Church of Christ? Not much room in heaven for those two, is there? Or, is it the God of the Old Testament? Have you read that horror story, lately? What kind of monster resides there? I hope that isn’t the God you think I’m rebelling against. I wouldn’t even try and recognize that kind of creature. How about a little Christian Science God? I wouldn’t worry about being sick. Maybe the God of Benny Hinn? But I need to practice my buckling backward instead of forward, as is normal. Gods, Gods, Gods, everywhere! Which God to choose? But it’s hard to shop when THEY can’t be seen, when no one has ever seen, heard, touched, smelled a God. But I’m not ready for any kind of controlled insanity and never will be. As for the “feeble” reasons always to be found, you neglect the “Superman” reasons that you don’t have to find. They find you. No matter how much you deny, avert, disguise, lie to yourself, your mind knows better. Go back and look at the Gods. Do you think they’re ALL real? Do you think that just yours—whatever that is—is real? The biggest, and most absurd, lie that you keep telling yourself is that the Bible is “God-breathed”, “infallible”. And this without the investigation of its history; without the investigation of how it came to be. How many on this forum know about the pagan religions that surrounded Christianity and what Christianity absorbed from them? Mithra, Persian God of the 5th-century B.C., was the God of Light and Wisdom. He aided human souls to heaven after death; he was born on December 25, and his birth was the result of a miracle; shepherds worshipped at his birth; his rites included baptism and a sacred meal; and he was to raise the dead and judge humankind at the end of the world. Doesn't this have a familiar ring to it? The End |
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2 | Does Psalms 22 stand up to the skeptics? | Ps 22:16 | Reformer Joe | 52902 | ||
This third party posting is getting tedious! :) Someone wrote: 'You “assume” they (and I?) are looking for reasons to “rebel” against God.' I assume it because that is human nature. It is not condescension, it is acceptance of God's revealed truth. And it is not my genius that has revealed it to me, but rather the Holy Spirit whose existence she denies. Romans 1-3 clearly describes the human condition, our total depravity. She is an enemy of the one true and living God and of Jesus Christ, just like I was and you were before our conversions. There is no such thing as "unbiased neutrality toward God," and her post clearly demonstrates this to be true. The God I refer to is the God that has clearly revealed himself in nature and in Scripture. The fact that many have twisted His self-revelation or ignored it entirely does not make His revelation inaccurate. There are many things that are worshiped besides the God of the Bible. Big shock! Romans 1:18 ff. describes this in great detail, with the results that she will face should she not repent. If your friend thinks that the God of the Old Testament is a "horror story," that is nothing compared to the eternity she is going to face when she meets the absolutely holy and omnipotent Judge clothed only in her own sinful rebellion and unrighteousness. Scary? Absolutely. The question she needs to ask is not whether it is scary but whether it reflects reality. I have investigated the history of the Bible. I have investigated how it came to be. I know about the pagan religions that surrounded Christianity and how Christianity distinguished itself from them. Does your friend really think that Christianity is just Mithraism in disguise? Mithraism, or any other pagan religion, was not punishable by death in the Roman Empire. Mithraists were not persecuted anymore than Diana devotees were. If Christianity were truly a syncretism of different pagan religions, that would have been fine and dandy with the thoroughly pagan culture in which it existed. However, secular and biblical history shows that Christianity was not the "easy fit" that your friend claims it to be. The fact is that the person with whom you are dialoguing will continue to be a rebel against truth unless and when the Holy Spirit regenerates her mind and convinces her of His truth. No doubt that she will view such a statement as a "cop out," but that is because her depraved nature prevents her from embracing truth. In addition, since this forum is for those who accept the truth of the Bible as a starting point for discussion here, perhaps this dialogue would be best carried out via private email. You can find it in my profile. I hope that I have been of some help to you here! --Joe! |
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3 | Does Psalms 22 stand up to the skeptics? | Ps 22:16 | Hank | 52904 | ||
Joe, there is little doubt in my mind that you, I, and others of our stripe are losing out in the popularity contest with those who embrace falsehood and dissent themselves or who spread the propaganda of those who do. Yet I suspect that you lose no more sleep than I do that might be occasioned by our efforts on this forum to stand by the revealed truth of the Bible and make every effort to refute and denounce error. As I have felt moved in the past to commend you on your uncompromising stand for the truth, so again I applaud you. "Popularity?" wrote Victor Hugo, "It's glory's small change."...... And that seasoned 'pearl of wisdom' from Beatle John Lennon, speaking of their rock group: "We're more popular than Jesus Christ now. I don't know which will go first. Rock and roll or Christianity." Well, we both of us might possibly be talked into venturing an 'unpopular' guess on that, might we not, Joe? --Hank | ||||||
4 | Does Psalms 22 stand up to the skeptics? | Ps 22:16 | Reformer Joe | 52928 | ||
"For our exhortation does not come from error or impurity or by way of deceit; but just as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we speak, not as pleasing men, but God who examines our hearts." --1 Thessalonians 2:3-4 |
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5 | Does Psalms 22 stand up to the skeptics? | Ps 22:16 | Hank | 52929 | ||
Amen, and praise God! --Hank | ||||||