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1 | Can XES mean self interest? | Revelation | Searcher56 | 216334 | ||
God's day to you, John, If you assigned numerical values it would be X (Chi) 600, E (Xi) 60, and S (Sigma) 6 Since the Bible says number (arithmos), not value (timao), I would the value thought. Plus the number relates to six (hex) Hexakosioi - 600 Hexekonta - 66 or 60 Searcher |
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2 | Can XES mean self interest? | Revelation | Joh Stefanyszyn | 216350 | ||
This has been the traditional interpretation over the years by the translators. However, the Greek word arithmos can also mean mark of a station, worth, or value. You can see this in a the Greek English lexicon, Liddell and Scott, 9th edititon. The interpretation of Greek words greatly depends on the context of the message. We also see this in the English language, ex "you are number 1" which means you are the best and not the physical number 1. I have done a complete research on the verses of Rev 13:16-18, which I have placed on a personal website for easy access. If you are interested to review the study... http://one-truth-one-god.info/one-truth-one-god.info.mht You will see that it applies to what is presently happening in the world. This understanding is also supported by Daniel 11:36-39. I welcome your comments. |
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3 | Can XES mean self interest? | Revelation | Morant61 | 216353 | ||
Greetings Joh! The simplest way to determine a word's meaning in the Bible is to see how it is actually used. The word 'arthimos' is used 18 times in 15 verses in the New Testament. Luke 22:3, John 6:10, Acts 4:4; 5:36; 6:7; 11:21; 16:5, Rom. 9:27, Rev. 5:11; 7:4; 9:16; 13:17; 13:18; 15:2; and 20:8. In each case, it makes perfect sense as a simple number. Look at the examples in Revelation. Rev. 5:11 refers to thousands upon thousands, and ten thousands upon ten thousands. Rev. 7:4 refers to the number of those sealed from each tribe. Rev. 9:16 refers to the number of the troops. See also 20:8. So, I would see no compelling reason why one shouldn't understand Rev. 13:17; 13:18, and 15:2 as references to an actual number as well. Especially, since every commentator and expert I have ever read sees the reference to a number. I would need pretty conclusive evidence to go against both of these strands of evidence. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Can XES mean self interest? | Revelation | Joh Stefanyszyn | 216356 | ||
Tim, one of the reasons that the numerical interpretation does not make sense is that Rev 13:11-18 stresses that this image, mark, name, and number of the beast will be worshipped by all nations. A numeral, physical name, an individual, church, or day cannot be worshipped by all nations and religions in today's world, especially in view that that the most worshipped belief is freedom of rights and religion. This belief is worshipped by more that 75 per cent of all nations and is embraced by all religions. This belief is regarded as the foundation for universal values which can unite all beliefs under the umbrella of freedom of human rights. The deception of embracing this primary belief is that man places the True God and Father of Jesus Christ in second place and on an equal footing as all other religions. As you know, as per the first commandment, there is none above the Creator. Jesus Christ and the apostles never compromised on this. In fact, they died for it. Glory to God for Jesus's ressurection. I have written a more thorough understanding in my personal website which I invite you to review. http://one-truth-one-god.info/one-truth-one-god.info.mht I look forward to your comments. Respectfully John |
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5 | Can XES mean self interest? | Revelation | Morant61 | 216357 | ||
Greetings John! I did review your site my friend! The problem is that the evidence you present consists of 'can's' and 'i believe's'. :-) There are two strong strands of evidence for the traditional translation. One is the rest of Scripture itself, and it's use of 'arthimos'. The second is the traditional translations of the passage. As far as the worship is concerned, Scripture only mentions worship of the beast or of his image. It never mentions worship of his number. You assume that one individual could not be worshiped by the entire world, but that is only an assumption. So, I see no hard evidence to support your translation as opposed to the historical one. p.s. - Welcome to the forum! I pray that you will enjoy your time on this site. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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