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1 | U.S.A. in Bible Prophesy? | Revelation | Morant61 | 18810 | ||
Greetings Yoshua! I checked out your first web site. My first question has to do with their theory that that 1260 days refers to 1260 years. The site said: "*Based on the year-day principle, as illustrated in Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6, a day in prophecy stands for a literal year in earth time." Yet, neither of the passages referred to have anything to do with prophesy. In both of them, God brings judgement upon Israel for their disobedience. The term of judgement was to be one year for each day of their disobedience. But, nowhere in these two verses does it say that everywhere in prophecy we should understand a day as a reference to a year. Especially since the same time period is also referred to in terms of months (42) and years (3 1/2). The most natural explanation is that the time period described is 3 1/2 years, not 1260 years. What do you think? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | U.S.A. in Bible Prophesy? | Revelation | danieln | 26062 | ||
in those texts God is telling the future events of Israel. what is prophecy but God telling us future events? the passages have everthing to do with prophecy plus: (a). Jews and Christians have used this principle for centuries.(1) (b). The prophecy in Daniel chapter 9 is ridiculous without it.(2) Also, the 490 years of chapter 9 is cut off from the longer period of chapter 8, thus indicating that the day-for-a-year principle must also apply in Daniel 8. (c). In Dan. 8: 13 it says "How long will the vision be…?". This vision of chapter 8 runs from the ram (Medo-Persia) right through to the activities of papal Rome. Therefore the 2300 period must cover Medo-Persia, Greece, Imperial Rome and papal Rome. (d). The prophecy of Daniel chapter 8 starts with Medo-Persia but we are told it relates to the "time of the end". Therefore the 2300 period must certainly be a long period of time to take us to the time of the end.(3) (e). A literal 3 1/2 years does not fit in Daniel 7:25. The kingdom of the horn with eyes and a mouth referred to in this verse is a more significant kingdom in the vision than the empires that reigned before it. All these previous kingdoms lasted for many decades. Also God judges the horn with eyes and a mouth towards the end of earth's history when He gives the dominion to His Son. So it must continue for a long time after the downfall of Imperial Rome. (f). These time periods are characterised by symbolic language. This should point us to considering a day-for-a-year principle as applying. After all, why would one want to use symbolic language unless there was some deeper meaning behind the time period mentioned? (g). The idea of a day standing for a year is relatively common in Scripture. See, for example, Nu.14: 34; Eze. 4: 6; Ge. 29: 27; Le. 25: 3,4.(4) (1). Froom L. E., The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Washington DC, Review and Herald, 1950, vol.1, p. 176, 203. (2). Seventy weeks is literally only about one and a half years. How can this be enough time to accomplish what is in the prophecy? 490 years fits perfectly when we add in the dates for the decree and the Messiah's coming. (3). By studying Daniel 11: 35 and 12: 7-10 along with Daniel 7: 25 we can see that the "time of the end" when Daniel's prophecies would be unsealed started at the end of the 1260 years of persecution ie. 1798. (4). In Le. 25:3,4 the week is used to symbolise a seven-year cycle with the seventh-day Sabbath representing the seventh year of rest. |
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3 | U.S.A. in Bible Prophesy? | Revelation | Morant61 | 26087 | ||
Greetings Danieln! In the post to which I was responding, I had two points of contention. 1) That Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6 taught us how to interpret years. 2) That Dan. 12:11 referred to 1260 years. I believe that Daniel 12:11 refers to the last of the 70 weeks of years mentioned in Daniel 9. As you pointed out, Daniel 9 does refer to 490 years. The text plainly says this. However, Daniel 12 doesn't. Also, Daniel 12:11 fits perfectly with Dan. 9:27. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | U.S.A. in Bible Prophesy? | Revelation | danieln | 26169 | ||
Hi Tim, How does the prophecy in Daniel 9 obviously tell us to convert days to years? Surely if we apply the "day to a year" rule here we might apply it in Daniel 12. Daniel 9 (NIV minus the notes) 25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven sevens, and sixty-two sevens. It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two sevens, the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven. In the middle of the seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing (of the temple) he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. nothing here tells me that days are converted to years, yet Jesus was baptised 483 years later(seven sevens, and sixty-two sevens.) thanks daniel |
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