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1 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | DocTrinsograce | 155006 | ||
Dear Jeff, I had only intended to congratulate you on your explanation, along with the with the contributions of Hank and WOS. Jeff, I'm a pretty simple man. I tend to avoid innuendo. I promise that if I find fault with anything you post on the forum, I will explicitly point it out. Furthermore, I promise that I have not -- in this thread or any other thread -- impugned your "thoughts and beliefs." In fact -- I'm embarrassed to add -- you have hardly been on my mind at all. Honest! Please, do not be so eager to see something negative in me -- there is enough, already, that is actually negative in me! :-) I explained why the phrase "once saved always saved" was misleading. (Did you note that I also wrote it was true?) I wrote, "it is touted by those who do not teach the whole Word of God. People are told that they can repeat a prayer, walk down an aisle, or be baptized, and all is well." We are in the forum to study the Bible. Everyone of us are learning to understand it better, to apply it to our lives more, and to walk in its teaching. Consequently, we discuss it in an exchange of posts. When I say that an expression is "superior" right after I've stated that some other term has its failings, then I mean is that it is better at expressing the scriptural concept. When I teach or preach I use the "superior" terms so that the flock will be less likely to error. Since you question my position on the authority of Scripture, let me assure you of my embrasure of the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith. In addition, I highly approve of the the more recent Chicago Statements on Biblical Inerrancy and Hermeneutics. I agree with your general statement that a believer is encouraged to confidence in the efficacious work of the Father's calling, the Son's atonement, and the Spirit's sealing and leading. However, I would deny that assurance should be offered to people who show no evidence of a changed life, nor have any desire for holiness. Those people should be encouraged in their fear and doubt, for the fear of the Lord leads to repentance. The problem, as I said in my discussion with WOS, is that so little is understood about what it means to be a believer. I did not intend to state that sanctification began at some point prior to regeneration. (I have written a number of times on the ordo salutis. You might want do a search for those posts.) Consequently, I agree, in general that progressive sanctification must begin with salvation. To be more specific, I would say that it logically falls after justification, but before glorification. Thank you for the opportunity to rectify misunderstandings and clarify statements. In Him, Doc PS I'm curious too know which book of A. W. Pink did you read? I run into so few people who have actually read them. |
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2 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | jlhetrick | 155010 | ||
OK Doc, perhaps I am oversensitive and/or reading into your statements. If so, or in any case, I sincerely apologize for my own argumentativeness. I am not so eager to see negative in you, only seemed to be seeing it. I did note in my post (I believe I did anyway) that you agreed that salvation is a permanent state once received. I am an educated man. I too have an appreciation for language that is best representative of one's point and argument. I, on the other hand find myself very often using a good deal of common and even slang language when I teach or preach. Perhaps this is to my failing and the detriment of my students and listeners. Perhaps I am sometimes guilty of assuming that they might not know or be familiar with some of the language. Anyway, I will consider this more. Regarding "assurance" this post is more understandable to me (if I have it right). It appears to me that you are referring to the assurance (or encouragement) that we as believers might give to another "professing" Christian. If I have you right on this then I agree. We also agree regarding sanctification. Thanks. Regarding A.W. Pink, I have only recently become familiar with his writings. I am currently reading from "Why Four Gospels" for personal entertaiment and learning. I am doing some digging in "The Doctrine of Justification" in preparation for my Sunday lessons at church. Thanks for your reply, Jeff |
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3 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | DocTrinsograce | 155013 | ||
Dear Jeff, As I suspected, we're "on the same page." :-) God bless you in your feeding the flock. When we love the Lord, we love what He loves. He loves His flock, and the best way for us to love the flock is to feed and tend them! It is a blessing to know that others are reading Pink. I would commend you to "The Sovereignty of God" when you get the time. By the way, on the topic of "Eternal Security," Pink wrote a very interesting booklet, which is available online: http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Security/security.htm In Him, Doc PS Please, consider dropping me an e-mail sometime! |
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4 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | jlhetrick | 155015 | ||
Dear Doc, Thanks for another learning experience. And thanks for the point to the website. Sincerely, Jeff |
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