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741 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | skccab | 193850 | ||
P.S. You always seem to come up with something for me to think about. You just won't let me stop thinking!!! Thank you. Cheri |
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742 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | skccab | 193852 | ||
Gye, Thank you. I do agree that the Father can and does get involved with His children in ways that to us seem to be not "good." A failing business, to cause that child to re-think what he/she's doing, maybe the purchase of a much-wanted home seems to be getting thwarted, to cause that child to re-think what he/she's doing, not getting the promotion so eagerly sought, etc. But I don't think the Father would put something as horrible as cancer or aids on His child to teach a lesson. Neither do I think that the person who has cancer or aids or any of those horrible diseases is a person out of God's will or unsaved or being punished. We may not be of the world but we are in it and therefore subject to the bad things that are here. And like you cited in 2 Cor. 12, if we give it to Him it can all be used to His glory!! And in Him we are MORE than conquerors! Cheri |
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743 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | skccab | 193859 | ||
But, Doc, if you die from that (which in itself isn't a bad thing ;-) ), but then you couldn't be conformed here on earth for others to see and give glory to God - which is where His glory needs to be seen. So what purpose would it serve? There is affliction and then there is that which kills. I just can't see the Father doing that which kills to His children. I do understand the Judge and Father differentitation (the Father actually holds a much higher standard than the Judge). Once again, I just can't see that which kills coming from the Father to teach a lesson. I liked Watson and Hendryx especially. I will rethink my position. I can agree in many areas but there are some that just ring too harsh according to Matt. 9:7-11 and James 1:17. still learning Cheri |
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744 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | skccab | 193865 | ||
Hey Doc, CORRECTION was trying to multi-task, the scripture is Mat. 7:9-11, my left-handedness was at work!! Cheri |
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745 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | skccab | 193923 | ||
Doc, I'm not arguing a bit about discipline, chastisement and the such. (As I stated before, I see God as Father holding a much higher standard for His own than God as Judge over those that do not know Him.) Once again, as long as we are in this world we are subject to the world's woes, some of those woes being sickness, disease, murder, rape. Where my problem is arising is in the thought that my Father would put something on me (or anyone else) to "teach a lesson,' that could ultimately (and probably would) kill me. What good would the "lesson" then be if I were dead? It's a bit of a stretch but I can grudgingly agree that He might "bless" me (as you would say :-) ) with a bad cold, or flu, so that I might slow down for a few days and maybe pay attention to what He's trying to tell me, but I just cannot see Him slapping something on one of His children that is gonna kill them. (Given, of course, that that's not His ultimate motive in the first place!) I guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this point. But one thing I promise, when I get to heaven and Abba tells me you were right all along, I will find you and apologize :-). Shalom Cheri |
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746 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | skccab | 193949 | ||
Doc, Quote / the implications of a God either unwilling or unable to exercise life and death is frightening... no, horrifying. I never said such a thing!! And if you think that I did then you misunderstood me or I wasn't clear. What I said is that I don't believe that God would put something deadly on a person to teach a lesson or get their attention. But I will state that the other poster that made the statements about doctors and medicine would have to be closer to being correct if we see every sickness and disease that comes upon us as being from God to teach us a lesson. What do we say about all the people in the Gospels whom Yeahua "unblessed" by healing them? (It's not that He cannot, I just don't think that He does.) Both of my mothers died of cancer (I'm adopted and know my natural family). The one - I don't know if she was a believer, but the one that raised me was a godly, born-again lady. The surgery that gave her another 5years of life according to you, would have been going against the will of God? The 5 years of remission then was of the adversary and not of God because He gave her the cancer? I don't see where we can have it both ways. Either God gave us brilliant men and women of medicine to fight the curse that came into the world at Adam's fall - or He puts it all on us and the knowledge we've gained in medicine is of the devil and we should just "sit back and get our lesson and hope we get better?" That just doesn't fit into the "abundant life" and "joy more fully" that is a promise to us. I'm very sorry to hear about your father, Doc, I will be praying for you and for him. Let's leave this conversation for now. I love you dearly, and am blessed to have such a wise brother looking out for me sometimes, but here I think we've hit a brick wall, or my feet are stuck in drying cement. much love and prayers for you and yours Cheri |
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747 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | skccab | 193958 | ||
Greetings John, Note taken, and thank you. I'm not in disagreement that it NEVER happens. I just don't buy that EVERY time - it's due to God trying to teach a lesson. I think that there has been a case of semantics getting in the way. I'm fully aware and in agreement that our God is Sovereign at all times. There's no argument there at all. I think possibly I was misunderstanding Doc as saying "ALL" and he (and you) misunderstood me as saying "NEVER." I do not believe that He NEVER will use deadly means to teach a lesson - I just don't believe that ALL sickness, disease, etc. come from Him to "teach a lesson." I do believe that these things do happen with His knowledge and (I dislike this term, but) approval, but often they happen just because we are in this cursed world. So, in short, I don't believe that the Father is the author of EVERY bad and deadly thing that happens to us, but neither do I believe that He is NEVER the author of them either. Please note the operative word "author." (After all, if He had absolutely nothing to do with any of the bad [or good] things then that would have to mean He was not aware or didn't care - and we know He is and does.) I'm having a great deal of difficulty with the right words, but I hope I have cleared up any misunderstandings. If not, I can try again. :-) Shalom Cheri |
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748 | eye for eye,turn other cheek-opposite? | 2 Tim 3:16 | skccab | 201837 | ||
You're welcome Debbie, And welcome to the Forum. As Doc said, I'm sure all of us will be praying for you and with you. Any one of us here on the forum will be happy to help you in any way we can to answer your questions. Cheri |
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749 | Chinese - descendants of Shem | Titus 3:9 | skccab | 193281 | ||
Morning Azure, I'm gonna stick my nose in here and hope it doesn' get "cut off" hahaha. I think canawedding was intending his/her note to go to the post just above yours as a PS to something he/she had already written about names in the Book of Life :-) Shalom Cheri |
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750 | Chinese - descendants of Shem | Titus 3:9 | skccab | 193282 | ||
My face hangs red!!! Guess it was meant for you. Sooo sorry to have stepped in. Oh well, such is life!! Shalom again my dear sister Cheri Oh by the way, did you get word that I read the article that you sent? I thank you very much for it, it helped. |
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751 | Are tithes n offerings required nowadays | Hebrews | skccab | 187171 | ||
Just a recap: my post sounded like you can give your money and just sit back and let others do the "field work." That is in no way what I had intended to imply. There's always "field work" to be done by ALL believers. blessins cheri |
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752 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209829 | ||
Val, Thank you, I'll give that a try. Cheri |
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753 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209838 | ||
Doc, Thanks for answering, but there still remains the one question - what was/is the "order of Meschezidek"? Why was our Master compared to him? I can see the similarities and contrasts with the Levitical order, but Melchezidek I don't really see. This is probably one of those questions that I'm just looking at too closely to see the answer for myself... :-) Cheri |
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754 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209840 | ||
Shalom John, Just that time of year, thinking a lot on the priestly things :-) You're probably right about the Dt. 29:29 - guess I'll just put it on the back burner for now. Maybe it will become clearer some time later... Thanks for the help though... Along with the possiblity of Melchezidek (Hebrew Malki - king Tz'edek - righteouness)being the incarnate Son, how about Shem? They were contemporaries...??? Just something to chew on.... Cheri |
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755 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209845 | ||
Hiya again, Like I said just something to chew on. And I would be thinking in the "spiritual" sense of his parentage being without beginning or ending because of the flood. Not to worry, wasn't wanting a debate or anything, just threw it out as something I heard as a possibility. Nothing more. I don't think it holds any more or less than him being the pre-incarnate Son. There's so little about him, that I think he's someone we'll just have to wait to meet and find out all about him then. That will be fun. Cheri |
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756 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209846 | ||
Newwine, Thanks, I'll try that again. I tried once and got next to nothing. That's happened before and then later I got lots, wonder why? Cheri |
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757 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209854 | ||
Hi John, Thanks, John. Wow, that's a LOT of reading!!!!! Will take at least a full 24 waking hours to get thru it, lol, but am starting it now (on verse 1). John Gill is good, I like him, but soooo much to read with his commentary (and I also tend to forget him). Cheri |
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758 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209865 | ||
Doc, good evening, Thank you, and to all, for trying to help me figure this one out. I will take the advice of all as I continue to work my way through it. :-) Great to have brothers and sisters to help!! Cheri |
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759 | need information on galatians Chapter 6 | Heb 3:12 | skccab | 209141 | ||
Shalom Kcab, Here is a link that might help you find things quickly in your bible. It is free and almost everyone on SBF uses it. http://www.e-sword.net/bibles.html You can download different versions of the Bible, dictionaries, commentaries, books, etc, etc. There is a search function in the software and also a Nave's Topical Bible that you can download and use. Cheri |
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760 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | skccab | 207672 | ||
Shalom Val, I've been following the various threads going recently and have been introduced to the "inductive" style of Bible study that you are doing. I'm not sure whether I'm at a point to attempt it or not just yet, but I do have one question: Do you use just your NASB, or do you check the other major "versions" to make sure the same words are translated the same way? (As has been brought up in this particular thread, regarding Heb. 5, the KJV uses the words "decern both" and other versions say "descern between" which can be understood entirely differently.) In this format, this may sound like a criticism, but it isn't, I'm just curious. Cheri |
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