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261 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | humbledbyhisgrace | 155303 | ||
Please take the time to really read the post of Obi and those that responded. If you cannot see the deceit in Obi's post and the intentional twisting of God's word in Obi's post then you need to understand this. Obi was exposed for false teachings and deceitful practices. There is a good reason for this. It's for anyone who may not be able to see the evil intent. To expose it for what it is. There is a difference in someone misinterpreting the scriptures and someone twisting the word of God. There is even a difference in people differing on the scriptures. But Obi's actions go beyond discussing and differing. I pray that you can understand this and I pray that Obi will one day see the truth in what he is doing. I ask you, is a Christian to be humble in the face of evil? |
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262 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | humbledbyhisgrace | 155371 | ||
ominous, I agree with a lot of what you said. I want to address a few of your questions and statements. Your question: "so why discourage someone at the first sign of non-conformity?" I don't believe we should. I think you are absolutely correct on this. But, the case with Obi does not fit into this category. Obi is a classic case of intentional false teaching. There is no other way to say it. Obi was attempting to teach not discuss and he did it with deceit which is nothing more then evil. What he was teaching was false. Not because I don't agree with him. But most importantly, the scriptures don't agree with him. Regardless of how smart one may think himself to be, the power of God's word and the truth in them cannot be hidden with lies and deceit. I have complete confidence in this fact. Hebrews 4:12 Your statement: "there is however a difference between rebuking a brother, and convincing a gainsayer, or one looking for answers. there is a difference in misinterpretation and deliberate twisting, but is it being done deliberately, or is that what he was taught?" Again, I agree with your comments about rebuking a brother etc... I think that would be a very good discussion that should be started on this forum. You raised several good points. Maybe you can get this started since it was your question. I would love to see the response myself in hopes that I too could have a better understanding of this issue and what others think about these things. Back to your statement. The point in your statement I want to key on is the part where you say "but is it being done deliberately, or is that what he was taught?" This is an excellent question. I believe it shows that your heart is in the right place on this whole issue. But it also underlines the importance of why we should call evil for what it is when we see it. What about those that did not understand what was going on and what Obi was up to? And to answer your question, it was obvious it was being done deliberately and you can rest assured it was what he/she was taught. The fact Obi was taught this practice of deceit and fallowed through on it is not an excuse for his/her actions. As a matter of fact, it should highlight to others where Obi's church stands and highlight the fact it is not a Christian church regardless of what they claim or call it. It would be much different if someone believed in something because they were taught it and that was that. But when delivered with deceit and with the intentions of twisting God's words (and this is their practice and they are taught these things and their church is built on the intentional twisting of God's word) a Christian I believe should be ready to call it for what it is and reject it. Now if someone was taught something that just happened to not line up with scripture, and they engaged in an honest discussion about it. You would be absolutely correct in how we as Christians should react. ominous, I can honestly say, I took no pride in these things with Obi. But the things seen in his/her actions were not of God. These are the things we rebuke. For Obi I have a heavy heart that prays to our merciful and Holy Father that he will speak to his/her heart and open the eye's. May God bless you! |
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263 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | humbledbyhisgrace | 155376 | ||
Deuteronomy 19:15 2 Corinthians 4 |
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264 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | humbledbyhisgrace | 155378 | ||
Here is another one I would like to discuss. 1 Timothy 5:20 Sorry about the first response. I got a little trigger happy before I was ready. Anyway, I would like to hear some thoughts on Deuteronomy 19:15 and 1 Timothy 5:20 in regards to this issue. Also, I was actually looking into this issue when addressing ominous and I kept being drawn back to 2 Corinthians 4 for some reason. I'm still looking into this one but if you have any thoughts on this chapter in regards to this issue I would also like to here them as well. One question I do have, is 1 Timothy 5:20 referring to a brother in Christ? I'll go ahead and lay this on the line so you and who ever else decides to get involved will know what you have gotten into. I am here to learn. Not to teach. I have been a Christian for less then 6 months and have very little background in Bible study. However, it is without a doubt my favorite pass time and I can't get enough so I am eager to learn. I will probably have more questions then thoughts. |
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265 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | humbledbyhisgrace | 155381 | ||
We might as well through this in the mix. Colossians 4:5-6 Question, is an outsider the same as one who willfully walks in evil. By that I mean one that sets out to temp others, their intent is to be evil and deceitful, knowingly practice evil with the intent to attach Christianity? This is not an easy question dealing with an outsider or is it? |
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266 | Repentance, how many times? | Luke 15:20 | humbledbyhisgrace | 199718 | ||
Greetings militaryguy! Welcome to the Study Bible Forum! Are you a Christian? God Bless, Steve |
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267 | Repentance, how many times? | Luke 15:20 | humbledbyhisgrace | 199721 | ||
Amen! On the third day according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:3-4) Steve |
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268 | The time of your visitation? | Luke 19:44 | humbledbyhisgrace | 177774 | ||
Greetings Doc! Thanks for the reply. I have read your post you mentioned in the past. As a matter of fact, I have several resources on hand related to how to study the bible also and I read them from time to time. I also saved your post in the past as a quick reference ;-) Like all areas of study this is one I'm sure I need much more time with. Application of these methods being the tricky part! Praise God for the Holy Spirit Amen? I can assure you of this, I am not one to try and dig something up that isn't there. It is true I don't understand it all but searching the scriptures for hidden codes is not at all what I do when reading the Word. If you have time, read Brother John Piper's sermon on these scriptures. I would like to hear your thoughts on his sermon if you have time. I found this online last night and thought it would be interesting to add to the discussion. Thanks again my Brother for the response! God Bless, Steve |
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269 | The time of your visitation? | Luke 19:44 | humbledbyhisgrace | 177819 | ||
No need to apologize Doc! I think I know you well enough now to know that even if that was your intent it was done out of love for a brother and to redirect where one might be barking up the wrong tree ;-) Trust me, I can take the redirection should I need it! I've learned to not only accept it from those I know to be my brothers and sisters in Christ but to expect it from time to time. I hang out with the old guys at church ;-) For some reason they have taken me in as one of there own and it's as if they our out to disciple me every step of the way. Guess what I'm learning the most from them??? Patients! That's a tuff one for me! I probably should have clarified my comment of assurance with "why I can assure you!" I'll do that now to clear the air. It is a great fear I have of misleading others and of not understanding it myself. I truly want to understand the Word myself but there is also a God given desire in me to share it with others. Have you ever had to deal with a burning passion you couldn't hold back yet have a constant fear of hurting someone else out of neglect or ignorance? I'm like a blind man walking through a mine field and there is an irresistible draw to the other side that I can't ignore and I'm constantly trying to get the other blind folks to follow me :-) I don't want to hurt them but I don't want them to miss out either. God bless you brother. I've learned much from you and others on this forum. Never hesitate to teach because I'm sure there are others learning from the folks on this forum as well. Steve |
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270 | The time of your visitation? | Luke 19:44 | humbledbyhisgrace | 177820 | ||
Greetings Mark! Thanks for the reply and the scripture reference. Did you happen to read Brother Piper's sermon on the passage of scripture? If nothing else he brings out some interesting points on the passage worth looking into. You may be familiar with the sermon or even the things he discusses. I just found it interesting because I first read this passage of scripture over a year ago and I keep coming back to it. It's one of those passages that just stayed with me and draws me back from time to time. Anyway, I found the sermon notes interesting and thank God for the teachers of the Word because as many times as I had read these scriptures brother Piper brings out several things I had not considered or understood before. Oh how I love the teachers of the Word! God bless you Brother, Steve |
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271 | The time of your visitation? | Luke 19:44 | humbledbyhisgrace | 177825 | ||
Hey Mark, over all it's the way he laid it all out. In particular the section where he covered "visitation" and discussed the way it was used in the Old Testament and the reference to the way it was used through out the book of Luke. Also the points he makes regarding "the terms of peace". Might just be me but I've been drawn to these scriptures for over a year know and it was interesting over all to read the sermon. I think what keeps drawing me back to these scriptures is the reaction of our Lord. Steve |
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272 | The time of your visitation? | Luke 19:44 | humbledbyhisgrace | 177869 | ||
Greetings Brother Mark! Thanks for the reply. You have posted quite a bit here for me to consider. That's good! My intent is to learn and I have yet to discuss the Word of God with anyone that I have not learned from it. I'm struggling a bit with seeing the same thing you are regarding this portion. The other I'll try and address latter. You said " Doesn't that change Jesus' words from "the time of My visitation" to "the purpose of My visitation"? Since he has ably pointed out that the term "visitation" in this context carries the purpose (for salvation) within it - I agree - why he is deflecting attention from the "time" of Jesus' visitation?" You ask the question why he is deflecting attention from the "time" of Jesus visitation. Help me understand why you think he is. I personally can't speak to Brother Piper's preterist beliefs so in regards to the attributed influence I couldn't say. However, you made the point so I must ask is it safe for me to assume that your beliefs are different then his in this area and if so then it can be expected that your interpretation of either the scriptures in question and/or Brother Piper's teaching are influenced by this as well? I have no position on this myself because at this point I'm not learned enough in eschatology or the teachings of Preterism. However, I'm interested in knowing more about the "time" issue. You said this troubled you and he deflected attention from the "time" of Jesus visitation. What do you think his intent was and how do you think it affects his explanation of the passage? Before I close I want to answer your question regarding changing the words of Jesus. My intent with my questions to you is not to avoid answering the question. It's truly to understand and grasp what you are saying. At this point, I don't agree his intent was to change the words of the Lord and/or deflect attention from the time of the visitation. Also, my intent is not to be a defender of brother Piper. I'm sure he would be more pleased if I didn't as I'm hardly qualified to do so ;-) Just trying to consider your teachings on this! I think you Brother for your time and consideration for helping me in this study! God Bless, Steve |
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273 | The time of your visitation? | Luke 19:44 | humbledbyhisgrace | 177943 | ||
Greetings Mark! "I hope I am making sense!" Yes my brother you are. I see the point(s) your making. As far as my belief / understanding of "because you did not recognize the time of your visitation." Yes I think our Lord is speaking of a particular time and that they did not recognize it. "I did not mean for you to defend Piper's statements. I apologize if that was how I came across. I will try to be more careful! :-)" Not at all. Just made the statement to help point out my only desire was to understand you on the points you raised as I didn't agree that his intent was to deflect. You have offered much to consider and I do appreciate that. I'm still digging! God Bless, Steve |
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274 | The time of your visitation? | Luke 19:44 | humbledbyhisgrace | 177946 | ||
Greetings Doc! Great stuff Brother! One point in particular, "beg Him to work the power of the Word in your own life" Amen! It reminds me of a few of the older brothers and sisters in my local church. You can see it in them! They teach by example! This also applied to our Pastor who recently went Home! I learned much from his example. God bless, Steve |
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275 | Is Jesus the same God as God, or a God? | John 1:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 204788 | ||
COLT.045, Your shooting blanks! :-) Your post is like a mixture of JW and WOF teachings. Do you claim to be either of the two? First, Jesus did not become Christ, He was Christ, is Christ and always will be the Christ! Read more of John. For example, read the second verse. John 1:2 (NASB) He was in the beginning with God. He (is Christ), He is referring to the Word in verse 1. "...and the Word was with God.." should be understood as a relationship between the Word (Christ) and God (the Father. i.e an eternal fellowship in the Trinity). "...and the Word was God." Christ the Son is God. John 1:14 (NASB) And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. Christ was NOT born again nor was there any need for God the Son to be born again! Colossians 2:14 (NASB) having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Note the debt against us was dealt with on the cross. Not afterwards! 1 Peter 3:18 (NASB) For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit Note, He died for sins once for all ... having been put to death in the flesh... Hebrews 10:10 (NASB) By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Note, we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ! Again, and again we see it is His sacrifice on the cross, the death of His flesh (body)! Colossians 1:22 (NASB) yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach It doesn't get any clearer then Colossians 1:22. He has reconciled you in His fleshly body through death! And for what? In order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach. John 19:30 (NASB) Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit. When the Lord Jesus Christ said it was finished, it was finished! There was nothing more for Him to do! The price had been paid! Steve |
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276 | Is Jesus the same God as God, or a God? | John 1:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 204852 | ||
Colt, Forgive the attempt at humor. I meant no harm! That's why I added the smiley face :-) However, as you teach it, it does come up short of scripture. The fact your teachings lean to both the JW teachings and the Word of Faith teachings is why I ask the question regarding JW and WOF. You say "I did not say Jesus became Christ. Read my post again." Okay, here is what you said "The creator became a human being in the form of a man Jesus, his thoughts, his mind, his word became the Christ." Reads that way to me. Never the less, the point is, Jesus did not become the Christ, He has always been the Christ! In John 1:1 He is referred to as the Word (Logos). This is the title John gave Him in this passage. Perhaps this will help... 1:1. As far back as man can think, in the beginning... the Word was existing. The term “Word” is the common Greek word logos, which meant “speaking, a message, or words.” “Logos” was widely used in Greek philosophical teaching as well as in Jewish wisdom literature and philosophy. John chose this term because it was familiar to his readers, but he invested it with his own meaning, which becomes evident in the prologue. The Word was with God in a special relationship of eternal fellowship in the Trinity. The word “with” translates the Greek pros, which here suggests “in company with” (cf. the same use of pros in 1:2; 1 Thes. 3:4; 1 John 1:2). John then added that the Word was God. Jehovah’s Witnesses translate this clause, “The Word was a god.” This is incorrect and logically is polytheism. Others have translated it “the Word was divine,” but this is ambiguous and could lead to a faulty view of Jesus. If this verse is correctly understood, it helps clarify the doctrine of the Trinity. The Word is eternal; the Word is in relationship to God (the Father); and the Word is God. 1:2. The Word has always been in a relationship with God the Father. Christ did not at some point in time come into existence or begin a relationship with the Father. In eternity past the Father (God) and the Son (the Word) have always been in a loving communion with each other. Both Father and Son are God, yet there are not two Gods. —Bible Knowledge Commentary You said "God, however you want to define him was born as a human being Jesus the Christ. The Creator/God the Father/YHWH put his mind his thoughts into a human being. The WORD in John 1:1 is the greek word Logos. The Logos became Christ." This is not correct. As pointed out above, the Word is Christ. Again, this appears to be somewhat of a JW understanding. I'm not sure but It appears to deny the trinity as well as the deity of Jesus. Firstborn does not mean born again! This is a false teaching by the WOF movement and the JW which they desperately need to validate other false teachings. It may very well be you have gained your understanding through their teachings. Unfortunately, many local churches and much of what you will find on the internet and in book stores today will have WOF teachings and JW teachings. You say you are of neither so I take you at your word. But never the less, your teaching reflects their teaching which is not how the scriptures teach it. Colossians 1:18 (NASB) He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. Jesus Christ was, is, and always will be sinless. He never has nor ever will have need to be born again. Scripture never teaches us Christ was "born again". You and I have a great need to be born again. Scripture clearly teaches us we are sinful and MUST be born again. If Christ had need to be born again, what does that mean in regards to all of scripture? How can it be His sacrifice was sufficient payment for our sins if He himself had to be born again first? If this were true that Christ had to be born again, surely we would find somewhere in Scripture that pointed to this. Surely there would be mention of His spiritual death. But you will never find such in Scripture. I hope this has helped. I hope some of the questions I raised will help you think your way through this. Colt, don't be offended by my poor attempt at humor regarding the blanks. I truly am sorry if I offended you. I am much more concerned with your understanding (and mine too) the truth found in God's word. Hopefully others will join in and help in the matter. Steve |
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277 | Apollinarianism | John 1:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205265 | ||
Apollinarianism was the heresy taught by Apollinaris the Younger, bishop of Laodicea in Syria about 361. He taught that the Logos of God, which became the divine nature of Christ, took the place of the rational human soul of Jesus and that the body of Christ was a glorified form of human nature. In other words, though Jesus was a man, He did not have a human mind but that the mind of Christ was solely divine. Apollinaris taught that the two natures of Christ could not coexist within one person. His solution was to lessen the human nature of Christ. - Taken from www.carm.org See http://www.carm.org/heresy/apollinarianism.htm to see more. |
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278 | Same question | John 1:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 211802 | ||
Greetings Cheri! Are you Jewish? Steve |
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279 | If you have never learned of the Trinity | John 3:16 | humbledbyhisgrace | 166379 | ||
Hello Ruth, Good point about the knowledge of the Trinity enhancing our walk with God! Amen! This was also my thoughts regarding the many doctrines we find throughout the word of God. As God increases our knowledge of Him we are truly enhanced spiritually! All the more reason to continue to dig into His word and seek to understand Him better. God Bless! Your Brother in Christ, Steve |
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280 | Is Jesus Angry everyday? | John 3:16 | humbledbyhisgrace | 181705 | ||
Would you care to make your point? You ask the question did you not? Just curious where your headed with this. God bless, Steve |
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