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361 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209643 | ||
Simply... Because of the fine people that have been telling you otherwise. I've studied with some of these folks for a couple of years now. They are intelligently thorough and very sound in doctrine. They have a love of God's word that seems to be infrequent these days. I know you don't know them as well as I do, but if you did, you would seriously consider looking into the information they have provided. They are truly trying to help. It is to your benefit to take some of the things that have been pointed out and hold them against scripture. 2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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362 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209716 | ||
Dear lookn, Since you have looked into the info provided it would be nice if you would then answer the many questions and concerns that have been raised. I wish you would share your knowledge regarding the concerns in stead of ignoring or dodging the questions and concerns that were raised. You’ve taken up a very strong defensive posture but have offered nothing in defense of your position other than claiming we shouldn’t be criticizing what we don’t know. So, I’m willing to do this for you lookn… You answer the concerns raised by the good people of the forum regarding Finney’s theology, specifically those questioning his denial of justification by faith and original sin, and I’ll take time to read up on Finney. Would that help? Will you then take what you are defending and hold it up to Scripture to see if it stands? If you are not willing to do that, then we have reached an impasse and I suggest we just simply let the subject silently fade into the archives of the forum. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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363 | IF God KNEW, why make it so? | Rom 7:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 168816 | ||
calmira, I do apologize if I expressed my thoughts with anything construed as condescending, and if it was, it wasn’t necessarily directed at you. I find them to be such a mystery, those who make every argument possible to deny the sovereignty of God and the truth of His Word. I find for myself that when trying to uncover that shroud, that mysterious garb, I get a sense of frustration and it does surface (honestly something I must gain more control over). I truly apologize and hope that you will understand. Many people seem to make a poor attempt at establishing anything contradictory such as God making us sinful or God not giving us choices and basically blaming a fallen world on a God most high and who is perfect and holy in every essence of the words. When in fact, it is our decision making that has brought us here, well, maybe not ours directly, but we would have done the same don’t you think? But we are right were God wants us anyhow; amazing how it works out. Although you may get an answer that suffices, some will not and it is not even because the sovereignty of God can’t be explained, but simply because they do not want to accept it. Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. They choose to be willfully ignorant. I used to think that I could talk a starving cat off a tuna truck until I attempted one day to explain God and his grace to a nonbeliever. You would have thought I was trying to pull teeth from a chicken. I learned to accept however, that my responsible is to only deliver, to the best of my ability while relying on Christ, the good news, and then to let God do the rest. Sometimes I must be persistent and others I must be more careful, but I am to witness. Your search for answers to edify yourself is commendable and I pray you continue. I’m still searching myself for many answers and do trust that I’ll find them as I progress and know there are many that I just may not get answers to this side of heaven. Sometimes that is hard to accept but something that is factual and needing to be dealt with. I’m glad you were able to get answers that satisfied you, there are many wise posters on this forum and you’ll do well to listen to them and you can recognize them, just compare what they post to God’s Word (you have had a few already reply to you). Now if you can just get those who question to listen as well! Just a closing note, it doesn’t matter what we do when it comes to God concerning His glory. He’s glorified regardless of what we choose and do. God orders all and everything works in support of His eternally perfect plan whether we have faith or not or whether or not we intended the act to be vile and wicked. God uses all for His glory and much in ways we cannot comprehend. But by the grace of God, faith in Christ keeps us from having to worry about that godless place reserved for the wicked. And promises us that one day, we’ll have answers to all of our questions. 1Corinthians 13:9-10: 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. WOS |
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364 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | Wild Olive Shoot | 169158 | ||
Tim, are you advocating that the regenerated are in a state of “sinless perfection” or that they are unable to sin or am I misunderstanding the point entirely? If that is the case, how does the following reconcile with that and with Romans 7:14 and 6:5 Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. “That there is in every one a struggle between the flesh and the spirit (Gal_5:17): The flesh (the corrupt and carnal part of us) lusts (strives and struggles with strength and vigour) against the spirit: it opposes all the motions of the Spirit, and resists every thing that is spiritual. On the other hand, the spirit (the renewed part of us) strives against the flesh, and opposes the will and desire of it: and hence it comes to pass that we cannot do the things that we would. As the principle of grace in us will not suffer us to do all the evil which our corrupt nature would prompt us to, so neither can we do all the good that we would, by reason of the oppositions we meet with from that corrupt and carnal principle. Even as in a natural man there is something of this struggle (the convictions of his conscience and the corruption of his own heart strive with one another; his convictions would suppress his corruptions, and his corruptions silence his convictions), so in a renewed man, where there is something of a good principle, there is a struggle between the old nature and the new nature, the remainders of sin and the beginnings of grace; and this Christians must expect will be their exercise as long as they continue in this world.” -- Matthew Henry Spiritually, I’m alive in Christ but I still have my flesh. It seems to me that so long as I remain in the flesh, I will always have a tendency to sin, even if I walk spiritually one wars with the other. Even though I walk in the Spirit and live by faith and desire more to act according to a child of God, I still have my flesh. Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Phi 3:12-15: 12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Aren’t we aiming for perfection, to be Christ-like, guided and influenced by His Holy Spirit to the day when we do obtain it? All to His Glory. WOS |
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365 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | Wild Olive Shoot | 169208 | ||
Tim, I understand your position much more clearly now and I thank you. WOS |
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366 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | Wild Olive Shoot | 169453 | ||
Dear kw5kw, You posted: “It's the small sins that will keep us --as humans-- close to God.” How is that so? Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Isaiah 59:1,2: 1 Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: 2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. Song of Solomon 2:15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes. “the little foxes; heresies and heretics are to be nipped in the bud, before they increase to more ungodliness; otherwise errors, which may seem small at first, soon grow larger and spread themselves, and become fatal to the churches:” John Gill Proverbs 14:9 Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour. 1Corinthians 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? James 1:14, 15: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Sin separates us from God. In no way is it conceivable that sin keeps us close to God. How great our sins that they could not have been atoned for at any other price? How great His love that He would not stop short anywhere, until life itself had been resigned? He laid down His life for us. Sinning does not keep us close to God. WOS |
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367 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | Wild Olive Shoot | 169457 | ||
So what are you saying? You sin to worship God? Do you really believe this is why Christ died for you, so you can sin in order to repent and as result worship God? Do you understand what you are claiming? Did you read the Scripture I posted? How about some more? Romans 6:1,2: 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? “shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? that is, shall we persist in a vicious way of living with this view, that the grace of God may be magnified hereby? is it right to commit sin on such an account? or is this a fair inference, a just consequence, drawn from the doctrine of grace? To be sure it was not, the objection is without any ground and foundation; sin is not "per se", the cause of the glorifying God's grace, but "per accidens": sin of itself is the cause of wrath, and not of grace; but God has been pleased to take an occasion of magnifying his grace, in the forgiveness of sin: for it is not by the commission of sin, but by the pardon of it, that the grace of God is glorified, or made to abound. Moreover, grace in conversion is glorified by putting a stop to the reign of sin, and not by increasing its power, which would be done by continuing in it; grace teaches men not to live in sin, but to abstain from it; add to this, that it is owing to the want of grace, and not to the aboundings of it, that men at any time abuse, or make an ill use of the doctrines of grace; wherefore the apostle's answer is,” – John Gill 1John 2:1,2: 1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1John 3:8,9: 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. It is a ridiculous argument for you to make that sinning keeps us close to God. I’m afraid you are wrong on this and have a terrible misunderstanding of what the grace of God is. Romans 3:5-8: 5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man) 6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world? 7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? 8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. To claim that we should do evil that good may come is a very improper attitude which Paul Himself addressed. Your argument of sinning to stay close to God… Well it just doesn’t measure up to God’s Word. Sorry. WOS |
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368 | kw5kw, do u worship God WHEN u repent? | Rom 7:19 | Wild Olive Shoot | 169517 | ||
Please give proper credit where credit is due. These words you post are not yours but rather those of John Calvin. Calvin Refutes Sabbath-keeping Institutes of the Christian Religion By John Calvin 33 and 34 http://www.cryingvoice.com/Endtimes/Sabbath2.html WOS |
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369 | kw5kw, do u worship God WHEN u repent? | Rom 7:19 | Wild Olive Shoot | 169524 | ||
It's quite fine to position yourself with another and use their words, it's done quite often, just make sure you give proper credit, that's all. Just for info, you do get to preview your post prior to posting. If you notice something that isn't right or you feel needs to be edited, simply use your back button on your browser to return to the previous page prior to submitting. WOS |
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370 | Remaking of the Will | Rom 8:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 173660 | ||
Dear Brother Mark, Referencing Jeremiah 18:6 you asked: “These are God's words to a nation. Does God make the same statement in a form and context applicible individually to each person?” Have you considered God’s word through Paul? Romans 9:20-24: 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? WOS |
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371 | Remaking of the Will | Rom 8:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 173668 | ||
Brother Mark, I think what we learn is that the criterion simply is God’s sovereign choice. He calls as He pleases. Galatians 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, I’ll offer the following to support that claim. 2Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, Ephesians 1:3-6: 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 2Thessalonians 2:13, 14: 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1Peter 1:2: Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. Actually, my post wasn’t intended to support either side of the discussion. I was simply posting in reference to the question you raised concerning Jeremiah 18:6 and the applicability to individuals. You and I have discussed somewhat in depth, I think, our thoughts pertaining to the will of man and God specifically at regeneration, so I have a pretty good impression of where you currently stand regarding the “remaking of the will”. Again, my post was only in reference to the verse from Jeremiah that was quoted. I haven’t been following closely enough or sadly, put forth much effort for any further discernment on the topic. You’ll excuse my brevity on that account? Just one quick thought however pertaining to God’s instructions of choosing Him, don’t you think that rather than putting the ultimate choice out of His sovereign hands that He is simply commanding obedience and then enables us to carry it out? Just a thought. WOS |
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372 | Hate Esau, hate us? | Rom 8:39 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154639 | ||
I thought this was interesting. Some of Matthew Henry’s commentary from Malachi 1:1-5 addressing Jacob and Esau. "Let them see what a difference God had made between Jacob and Esau. Esau was Jacob's brother, his twin-brother: “Yet I loved Jacob and I hated Esau, that is, took Jacob into covenant, and entailed the blessing on him and his, but refused and rejected Esau.” Note, Those that are taken into covenant with God, that have the lively oracles and the means of grace committed to them, have reason to look upon these as tokens of his love. Jacob is loved, for he has these, Esau hated, for he has not. The apostle quotes this (Rom_9:13), and compares it with what the oracle said to Rebecca concerning her twins (Gen_25:23), The elder shall serve the younger, to illustrate the doctrine of God's sovereignty in dispensing his favours; for may he not do what he will with his own? Esau was justly hated, but Jacob freely loved; even so, Father, because it seemed good in thy eyes, and it is not for us to ask why or wherefore. The Edomites shall be made the monuments of God's justice, and he will be glorified in their utter destruction: For Esau have I hated; I laid his mountains waste, the mountains of Seir, which were his heritage. When all that part of the world was ravaged by the Chaldean army the country of Edom was, among the rest, laid in ruins, and became a habitation for the dragons of the wilderness, so perfectly desolate was it; as was foretold, Isa_34:6, Isa_34:11. The Edomites had triumphed in Jerusalem's overthrow (Psa_137:7), and therefore it was just with God to put the same cup of trembling into their hands. And, though Edom's ruins were last, yet they were lasting, and the desolation perpetual; and in this the difference was made between Jacob and Esau, and is made between the righteous and the wicked, to whom otherwise all things come alike, and there seems to be one event. Jacob's cities are laid waste, but they are rebuilt; Edom's are laid waste, and never rebuilt. The sufferings of the righteous will have an end and will end well; all their grievances will be redressed, and their sorrow turned into joy; but the sufferings of the wicked will be endless and remediless, as Edom's desolations, Mal_1:4. Note, Those that walk contrary to God will find that he will walk contrary to them; for who ever hardened his heart against God and prospered? When the Jews had rejected Christ and his gospel they became Edomites, and this word was fulfilled in them; for when, in the time of the emperor Adrian, they attempted to rebuild Jerusalem, God by earthquakes and eruptions of fire threw down what they built, so that they were forced to quit the enterprise. Secondly, They shall be looked upon by all as abandoned to utter ruin. All that see them shall call them the border of wickedness, a sinful nation, incurably so, and therefore the people against whom the Lord has indignation for ever. Since their wickedness is such as will never be reformed, their desolations shall be such as are never to be repaired. Against Israel God was a little displeased (Zec_1:15), but against Edom he has indignation, and will have for ever, for they are the people of his curse, Isa_34:5. The Israelites shall be made the monuments of his mercy, and he will be glorified in their salvation, Mal_1:5. “The Edomites shall be stigmatized as a people hated of God, but your eyes shall see your doubts concerning his love to you for ever silenced; for you shall say, and have cause to say, The Lord is and will be magnified from the border of Israel, from every part and border of the land of Israel.” The border of Edom is a border of wickedness, and therefore the Lord will have indignation against it for ever; but the border of Israel is a border of holiness, the border of the sanctuary (Psa_78:54), and therefore God will make it to appear (though it may for a time lie desolate) that he has mercy in store for it, and thence he will be magnified; he will give his people Israel both cause, and hearts, to praise him. When the border of Edom still remains desolate, and the border of Israel is repaired and replenished, then it will appear that God has loved Jacob." – Matthew Henry WOS |
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373 | Hate Esau, hate us? | Rom 8:39 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154642 | ||
Doc, Not anything close to being in depth, only enough to know a little of the line of descendants. Any recommended resources? WOS |
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374 | Hate Esau, hate us? | Rom 8:39 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154716 | ||
Doc, Thanks. It does sound like a study that I would find enjoyable and enlightening. I’ll do that. By the way, it’s my pleasure to be able to participate in a forum in which the Word can be conveyed and discussed and learned from by others who desire the same. I’ve definitely matured the short time I’ve been here and I honestly thank God for allowing forums such as this to remain active as well everyone else for their help and willingness to share. WOS |
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375 | Does God love everybody? | Rom 8:39 | Wild Olive Shoot | 155027 | ||
I disagree with this on many levels. Since when and where in Scripture does it state that man and our actions dictate God's perfect plan? Where does it also state we must "earn" salvation? And another, just what do you perceive the elect to be? WOS |
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376 | Does God love everybody? | Rom 8:39 | Wild Olive Shoot | 155059 | ||
Swerv, You stated: “His elect are those who reflect their love for God by obeying His commandments. This does not earn salvation but reveals to God our heart in wanting to serve and obey Him.” That statement is only partially true. Was Saul of Tarsus not God’s elect even though he persecuted the those of “the way”? Was Peter not God’s elect even though he denied the Lord three times? Was King David not God’s elect even though he committed adultery and murdered? Was Moses not God’s elect even though he disobeyed and was forbidden to enter the Promised Land? Was Jacob not God’s elect even though he lied to his father and deceived him to receive his blessing? Do those actions reflect their love for God or obedience? God’s elect were chosen before they had a chance to choose to be obedient. (Eph 1:3,4) (2 Tim 2:19) (2 Thess 2:13). It is God’s sovereign choice who the elect shall be. (Rom 9:14-24) And in all of these we see it was based on nothing to do with our works, since yet, there were no works done. God did not set the elect because he foresaw them to be holy, God determined to make them so. You then said “No matter what - the people will be saved in the end at Jesus return - are those who keep His commandments.” We don’t keep His commandments. If we could obey and keep His commandments in their entirety, Jesus would not have had to willingly die in our place. It is through faith in Christ and what he accomplished on the cross that we are saved. Saying that we must keep the laws in order to be saved is not true in the least. Even under the Old Covenant it wasn’t adherence to the Law that saved, it was faith. The Law showed us that we couldn’t do it on our own. We are called to be obedient and our obedience does show just where our hearts are, but we are not saved simply because we keep his commandments. From the grace of God comes our salvation, freely given to us through faith in Jesus Christ. You also stated: “The only reason we have a New covenant is because fault was found with the people of the Old covenant because they could not keep the promises they made as part of the Old covenant.” The reason we have the New Covenant is because that was God’s plan all along. He didn’t decide one day that he needs to adjust His perfectly eternal plan to suite the wickedness of men. We can’t keep the commandments either. If fault is going to be placed, you had better place it on us as well. Christ’s atonement was for sins past present and future. I found the following, which I hope helps you to address your statement: “The question we then must ask ourselves is what laws did God put in our heart for us to obey. Although, the covenant has changed from Old to New - God still wants us to obey His laws which instead of being written on stone - are now written on our hearts.” “Written in their hearts - The revealed Law of God was written on tables of stone, and then recorded in the books of the Old Testament. This law the Gentiles did not possess, but, to a certain extent, the same requirements were written on their hearts. Though not revealed to them as to the Jews, yet they had obtained the knowledge of them by the tight of nature. The word “hearts” here denotes the mind itself, as it does also frequently in the Sacred Scriptures; not the heart, as the seat of the affections. It does not mean that they loved or even approved of the Law, but that they had knowledge of it; and that that knowledge was deeply engraved on their minds. Their conscience - This word properly means the judgment of the mind respecting right and wrong; or the judgment which the mind passes on the morality or immorality of its own actions, when it instantly approves or condemns them. It has usually been termed the moral sense, and is a very important principle in a moral government. Its design is to answer the purposes of an ever attendant witness of a man’s conduct; to compel him to pronounce on his own doings, and thus to excite him to virtuous deeds, to give comfort and peace when he does right, to deter from evil actions by making him, whether he will or no, his own executioner: see Joh_8:9; Act_23:1; Act_24:16; Rom_9:1; 1Ti_1:5. By nature every man thus approves or condemns his own acts; and there is not a profounder principle of the divine administration, than thus compelling every man to pronounce on the moral character of his own conduct. Conscience may be enlightened or unenlightened; and its use may be greatly perverted by false opinions. Its province is not to communicate any new truth, it is simply to express judgment, and to impart pleasure or inflict pain for a man’s own good or evil conduct. The apostle’s argument, does not require him to say that conscience revealed any truth, or any knowledge of duty, to the Gentiles, but that its actual exercise proved that they had a knowledge of the Law of God. Thus, it was a witness simply of that fact.” – Matthew Henry WOS |
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377 | What is blocking us from God's love? | Rom 8:39 | Wild Olive Shoot | 181364 | ||
New Creature, nothing is blocking God's love. The verses you cite all refer to our love to and of Him or as in Isaiah 59:2, something we have done to hide God from us. How can the command be issued for us to keep ourselves in the Love of God if the love referenced is that of God's? Seems He would be issuing that command to Himself??? "The reason which he gives for their doing this is the strength of the love which he had shown for them. His love was so great for them that he was about to lay down his life. This constitutes a strong reason why we should continue in his love: "... ..."In my love - In love to me. Thus it is expressed in the Greek in the next verse. The connection also demands that we understand it of our love to him, and not of his love to us. The latter cannot be the subject of a command; the former may. See also Luk 11:42; 1Jo 2:5; Jud 1:21." - Albert Barnes The throne of grace is always accessible to us, we simply choose not to approach. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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378 | Why were the chosen ones chosen? | Rom 9:15 | Wild Olive Shoot | 188565 | ||
And Noah got drunk on wine and was naked in his tent to his shame. What's your point? WOS |
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379 | Why were the chosen ones chosen? | Rom 9:15 | Wild Olive Shoot | 188568 | ||
Thank you Hank. I couldn't have stated it any better than you just did. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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380 | Why are we accused of blaming God? | Rom 9:21 | Wild Olive Shoot | 194008 | ||
Why is it that so often when we attempt to give God all the glory He deserves and in doing so confess to His ultimate sovereignty, that we are accused of blaming God. Shouldn’t admitting that God is in full control be viewed as just that and not as us “blaming God” for what ails us? WOS |
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