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321 | disciplerami, it is impossible (Heb 6:6) | Heb 6:6 | Reformer Joe | 75782 | ||
"So WHILE they crucify Him, it is impossible. If they quit crucifying Him, then it is no longer impossible to renew them again to repentance." I can honestly say that this is the first time I have ever heard of such an interpretation of this text. What does it mean that they were "crucifying Christ to themselves," according to your interpretation? How does someone who has fallen away stop crucifying Christ to themselves? And how is this any type of dire warning if what the writer was "really saying" is that salvation is a revolving door, that we can be born again and again and again and again? That seems to fly right in the face of the verses in their context. Where did you get the word "WHILE" from the text? Thanks! --Joe! |
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322 | once saved, always saved? | Col 1:13 | Reformer Joe | 75774 | ||
'I don't see where you equate "blaspheme" with "repent" I don't see where these two individuals in the text were told to repent.' I wasn't equating blasphemy with repentance. Sorry if I was unclear in my wording. Let me try again: Paul said he delivered the two over to Satan "so that they will be taught not to blaspheme." In other words, at this point Paul did not consider them to be written off. There was a very specific purpose in mind for these two victims of shipwreck: to bring them to repentance for their sin of blasphemy, whatever the particulars may have been. Therefore, Paul had not written them off as beyond repentance, despite the fact that they had made a "shipwreck of their faith." So, if they had fallen away from a state of salvation (and it would be impossible for them to be brought to repentance according to Hebrews 6:4-6), why is Paul trying to teach them ANYTHING? --Joe! |
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323 | once saved, always saved? | Col 1:13 | Reformer Joe | 75740 | ||
New Creature: The passage from 1 Timothy is a good one to look at. The issue at hand is what Paul means by making a shipwreck of one's faith. Does it mean losing one's salvation? Here is the passage from 1 Timothy: "This command I entrust to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they will be taught not to blaspheme." --1 Timothy 1:18-20 A couple of observations on my part: 1. This shipwreck of faith is not some hypothetical, imaginary situation, as Paul gives two specific examples of individuals who have indeed shipwrecked. 2. Paul "handed them over to Satan" (which I take to mean to disfellowship from the communion of saints) for a purpose, so that they will repent of their blasphemy. Therefore, if Paul is talking about losing one's salvation in the case of Hymenaeus and Alexander, he is holding out the possibility of them being "re-saved" again. But what does the passage in Hebrews say? "For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame." --Hebrews 6:4-6 How do you reconcile Paul talking about teaching Hymenaeus and Alexander not to blaspheme (i.e. to repent) and Hebrews telling us that it is impossible for those who have fallen away to be brought back to repentance, if indeed the "shipwreck of faith" equals loss of salvation? Your brother in Christ... --Joe! |
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324 | If you are saved can you lose it | Heb 6:6 | Reformer Joe | 75710 | ||
Oops...I meant the idea of "covenant" is MISUNDERSTOOD by Gentile Christians! :) --Joe! |
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325 | If you are saved can you lose it | Heb 6:6 | Reformer Joe | 75709 | ||
Exactly. However, does tasting the heavenly gift mean being regenerate? We could look at lots of examples in Scripture where people had the advantage of living among God's people but were not God's people. Perhaps the most striking example we see are the Pharisees in the first century. Romans 2 and Romans 9 and Philippians 3 list some of the blessings that belonged to the Pharisees as part of God's covenant people. However, Jesus refers to them as blind guides and hypocrites and vipers and children of the devil and of hell. They definitely heard of God's goodness in the Law and the Prophets, were circumcised, partook of the Passover and the other feasts. But they still were not really of God. As Romans 9 puts it, all are not Israel who are descended from Israel. I believe that the parallel situation in the church is what the writer of Hebrews refers to. We have to admit that there are people in the most faithful, Christ-exalting churches who hear the word preached week after week, bow their heads when everyone else does, get baptized, and partake of the Lord's Table, but who do not have faith nor do these things in that faith. When severe trial and temptation come along, they are gone. This makes sense to me for a number of reasons. First of all, it fits perfectly with the numerous passages which suggest that the believer is secure because God has transformed him into something new and keeps him. Secondly, it supports the biblical truth that faith without works is dead, that a true faith brings forth a faithful life. Thirdly, the Hebrews being addressed in the epistle were very familiar with the concept of the covenant, a concept largely understood and ignored by 21st-century Gentile believers. Being "cut off" had a very specific and earthly connotation for the Israelite, and it pointed to a spiritual truth as well about the state of their souls. --Joe! |
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326 | Is water baptism must for Holy communion | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 75634 | ||
"My point is that not everyone has a choice in taking communion. While in the USN everyone took a wafer dipped in grape juice as it was required, and there was no choice about it not partaking." Wow, that is surprising. So what if the navy man was a Muslim? No one could object on religious grounds? If it was a Roman Catholic Priest, I cannot imagine him using grape juice and going against the RCC catechism. What decade are we talking about here? "I do not see that a pastor doing his or her best in being obediant to the call of Christ, and administering communion, can be called irresponsible if he or she is unaware of such sins of the people." Lack of awareness is one thing. Should a minister permit communion participation from an openly homosexual professing believer, however? "I most certianly can not find damnation for a child or unsaved person partakes is under Gods to be punnished list." For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly. --1 Corinthians 11:29 Paul even links the unworthy participation in communion to the sickness and death of Corinthian church members in this chapter. "I revere Jesus and what He said, but let us not forget Judas took the cup as well, and followed Jesus, he saw the healings and much more." Actually, Judas left before the institution of the Lord's Supper (John 13:30). "Blessings and peace." And to you! :) --Joe! |
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327 | If you are saved can you lose it | Heb 6:6 | Reformer Joe | 75621 | ||
"Do you really have any question of who these people were or what they fell away from?" No, I don't. --Joe! |
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328 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | Reformer Joe | 75616 | ||
"Finally, John 10 does not say anything which would rule out those who are not currently His sheep from becoming His sheep." Not directly, but notice that he considers the future Gentile believers as already being His sheep: "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd." --John 10:16 He HAS the other sheep already; He MUST bring them, and they WILL hear His voice. It is good to be part of the right flock, isn't it? :) --Joe! |
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329 | If you are saved can you lose it | Heb 6:6 | Reformer Joe | 75614 | ||
"Can you ignore Hebrews chapter 6?" No you can't. "Remember, Hebrews was written to Christians." It was written to church(es), made up of both genuine believers and covenant-breakers. Just like in our churches today, there are individuals who are church members but not regenerate. They sit under the same preaching, partake of the Lord's Table, bow their heads when everyone else does, but their outward actions and outward participation are faithless. People DO fall away. It is not hypothetical. But who are these people, and what do they fall away from? --Joe! |
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330 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | Reformer Joe | 75610 | ||
"I believe that spiritual death occurs when you sin. But spiritual death, the separation from a relationship with God, doesn't keep you from hiding from God in shame, seeing your nakedness. I certainly believe that the person knows his condition. This is what the Gospel can do when preached to lost sinners, it can prick and cause them to seek God's forgiveness." Except for the first sentence, I agree completely. "So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men." --Romans 5:18 All men were condemned because of one trangression. What one transgression is being referred to here? "For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous." --Romans 5:19 Do we become sinners when we sin? Whose disobedience made us sinners, according to this verse? The comparison between Adam and Jesus is unbreakable. If we are not sinners directly because of Adam's disobedience, how can Christians be saved by Christ's obedience? Adam's sin was imputed to all of his natural offspring. Jesus' righteousness is imputed to all who believe. There is no other way to look at these two verses without doing damage to what the life and death and resurrection accomplished for those who will be in heaven. --Joe! |
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331 | How Does Baptism Save? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Reformer Joe | 75601 | ||
"Baptism saves you because it is the point at which God sees your faith and your desire in faith to be cleansed." I am confused by your answer. Does God need to SEE our faith for Him to know it is there? "Faith without works is dead." Amen. However, the faith which saves exists before a single faithful work is done. Did Abraham's faith exist before he offered Isaac up? His obedience did not create the faith that saved him. His faith that saved him resulted in the obedience that served as evidence of that faith. --Joe! |
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332 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | Reformer Joe | 75599 | ||
The question of the extent of the atonement has nothing to do with whether we are born spiritually dead or not. John Wesley believed we are born spiritually dead as well: "Original sin standeth not in the following of Adam (as the Pelagians do vainly talk), but it is the corruption of the nature of every man, that naturally is engendered of the offspring of Adam, whereby man is very far gone from original righteousness, and of his own nature inclined to evil, and that continually." --United Methodist Articles of Religion, Article VII --Joe! |
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333 | Is water baptism must for Holy communion | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 75440 | ||
"Could you give some scripture that supports your view?" Yes. The book of Acts. While one is justified by faith alone, one joins the visible church by baptism. In every single recorded conversion in the book of Acts, baptism immediately followed. The notion of an "unbaptized Christian" has absolutely no Scriptural support whatsoever in the life of the New Testament church. While one cannot see into the heart of a communicant, offering communion to someone who is openly unrepentant in their sin or even a professing non-believer is the height of pastoral irresponsibility. You are correct that God will judge the situation (see 1 Corinthians 11 for the judgment, BTW), but He will judge more than the heart of the partaker. He will judge the actions of the one entrusted with the administration of the ordinances of Jesus Christ. Woe to the minister who knowingly fails to revere what Jesus sanctified for His people alone. --Joe! |
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334 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 75226 | ||
So much about you? I only asked one question! :) Just so that you keep your mind open to evaluate whether the sister you are studying with has it right or not, I would like to point you to a couple of links: http://www.watchman.org/jw/index.htm http://www.webshowplace.com/question/65quest.html http://www.equip.org/free/DJ540.htm http://www.equip.org/free/DJ570-1.htm http://www.equip.org/free/DJ570-2.htm --Joe! |
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335 | Is the first resurrection, the rapture? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 75177 | ||
So are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses, then? --Joe! |
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336 | Is water baptism must for Holy communion | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 75176 | ||
While I agree that we are not justified by baptism, could you give me a reason why a true believer would take part in communion but neglect baptism? Look at the New Testament model. When did new converts get baptized, in every recorded case? --Joe! |
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337 | Is water baptism must for Holy communion | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 75175 | ||
I am a covservative, evangelical Protestant that agrees with Emmaus on this one. Baptism is the initiatory rite into the visible church. While I disagree with him on what baptism does, it is the first order of business for a new believer. Why would someone want to take part in the Lord's Supper but not be baptized? --Joe! |
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338 | predestined? | John 3:16 | Reformer Joe | 75173 | ||
But they are PEOPLE that are foreknown, not events or decisions, right? --Joe! |
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339 | predestined? | John 3:16 | Reformer Joe | 75156 | ||
"There isn't an explicit direct object mentioned in Rom. 8:29. The pronoun 'those' doesn't even have a clear antecedent." I would agree that it doesn't have an explicit antecedent, but the context, I think, makes it unlikely that Romans 8:29 refers to Israel. For example: "What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things?" --Romans 8:31-32 Since the "we" in these verses includes (at a minimum) Paul and the Gentile Roman church, and the verses quoted call for a response to the previous verses, it would seem that foreknowing, predestining, etc., has everything to do with both the redeemed among the Jews and those among the Gentiles. Otherwise, why would the Gentile Christians be called to such assurance and joy because the descendents of Jacob were foreknown? --Joe! |
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340 | predestined? | John 3:16 | Reformer Joe | 75154 | ||
I don't see Romans 9-11 as a "rabbit trail," but rather as an important response to a legitimate hypothetical question. I don't know about you, but I am often asked by skeptics, "What about Jews? They are God's people, according to the Old Testament. Will Jews be in heaven or not?" Without Romans 2-3 and 9-11, one could make a fairly good case for the two testaments contradicting each other. I see Romans 1:18-11:36 as an elegant unfolding of the statement Paul makes in Romans 1:16-17, expounding doctrine by means of creating a hypothetical foil to ask the questions which, if not addressed, could carry a person off into the realm of false conclusions. In my view, in Romans 9-11 Paul ties up the last and most challenging objections to the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ. --Joe! |
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