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721 | Does this make pretrib rapture unlikely | Dan 7:25 | CDBJ | 70525 | ||
Greetings Edb, the answer you posted placed the emphasis on the audience of Daniel for your conclusion, yet isn’t it a fact that Daniel was talking about future things and the visions that he saw in his dream? Wouldn’t the interpretation of the dream pertain to all that would be present when these things would take place? I think that the verse in Daniel 7:25 is paralleled in Revelation, only it further elaborates by including a larger group of people, which will be from kindreds and tongues, and nations. Rev. 13:5-8 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. [6] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. [7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. [8] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. |
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722 | Does this make pretrib rapture unlikely | Dan 7:25 | CDBJ | 70537 | ||
I will admit to that unless we can prove that this one who is to come on the scene is warned about to the New Testament believers. Matthew throws a little more light on the subject when Jesus tells how the deceiver will come, when he talks about the mention of him in Daniel this is the key that it is for New Testament saint. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Paul speaks and warns believers of the same peril that is to come to believers. 2 Thes. 2:7-10 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Here it even says that the Lord’s coming is after this working of the great deceiver or wicked one. The believers are being troubled by the workings of Satan and the Lord will deal with him for it along with those that follow his antichrist. The timing is even explained to us in II Thess. 2 Thes. 1:7-10 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, [8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: [9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; [10] When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. It looks to me like the coming of the Lord for the destruction of the wicked occurs on the same day that the Lord will come for us at the rapture, when he will be glorified in his saints. A lot of people would like to put a seven year gap in here but that isn’t what it says. It happened the same way in Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot was taken out then WHAM, the Lord struck! The same thing happened in the days of Noah. The same day he went into the ark and was safe the rain started and the floods hit. Same situation will happen when we are removed into the Lord’s presence. This left behind stuff is all wishful thinking on somebody’s part with a vivid imagination. II Thess. 1:8 doesn’t sound like fun to me when it talks about with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: That looks pretty clear to me unless I’m missing something or are you saying that there is more then one coming? |
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723 | Does this make pretrib rapture unlikely | Dan 7:25 | CDBJ | 70548 | ||
No I am not a post tribulation, and the mid tribulation view is full of holes, but I will admit, I use to be pre tribulational. I will agree with you that there were three views and they all use Scripture to try and prove their point and all use correct verses. The fact is that the individual verses used are concealed from the rest of the verses that could disprove their view. Somewhere in there, there is a common denominator that takes all the verses into account and leaves no contradiction and that is what I would like to discuss because they can’t all be right in their view only the Scripture is right. The truth stands somewhere between all of these views and if people are open minded enough to admit this I would like to discuss it at length. I will concede to your point that the portion in Daniel is talking about the middle of the seven year period but where does it say that the first three and a half years or forty two months is tribulation, doesn’t Christ call that period the beginning of sorrow? Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. |
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724 | Does this make pretrib rapture unlikely | Dan 7:25 | CDBJ | 70592 | ||
Hello Edb, you are right when it comes to the hassle that one derives from a discussion that seems to be somewhat controversial. People don’t want to learn or they won’t leave their minds open to truth; they get so set in their ways that they don’t want to be confused by the facts. I have been a Christian for over 37 years now and one of my main interests in Scripture has been the study of eschatology I try to read everything that I can get my hands on. I have studied the different views concerning the timing of the coming of the Lord and have been an ardent student of the pre tribulation view but there has always been a lot of loose ends that didn’t quite fit. There is a very old concept that has recently brought back to light by several different people at the same time and several books that use extensive Scripture to prove the facts. One of those sharing this view was a professor of theology at Moody and because he was so adamant about this rediscovered truth he voluntarily left them rather the compromise what had been revealed to him. Another was the director of The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry; he to stepped down rather then denounce what had been revealed to him concerning the rapture of the Church and he was the one who established that the standard position for the mission would be the pre tribulation position. I think you are right about what you have said, as to discussing it on the forum but if you would like to examine the information more thoroughly look up my personal profile and drop me a note on my e-mail address. Yours in the Lord, CDBJ |
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725 | Which resurrection is used, 1st or 2nd? | Dan 7:25 | CDBJ | 189167 | ||
Hello M.Royal, The answer to your question is neither one! The rapture, as many call it, is only “a portion” of the first resurrection which started with Christ Jesus and terminates after the 1000 year reign of Christ. Check out an answer that I gave on this by entering the number #153613 in the search box. Rev. 20:5-6 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. (( This is the first resurrection.)) 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. CDBJ |
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726 | The Savior | Dan 8:19 | CDBJ | 40319 | ||
What do you mean by judgment day, chapter and verse please! Back up what you are trying to tell us by using God's Word or it doesn't mean anything to us. 2 Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Can you prove what you are saying with the Bible? It must be thus saith the Lord or it means nothing! Use Scripture Please!! |
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727 | Help on the 69th, 70th Week of Daniel | Dan 9:24 | CDBJ | 80110 | ||
Hello Truthfinder, How do you get specifically the number seven from what Jesus said, you suggested, "Jesus spoke of the seven times," in Luke 21:24 in your last post? CDBJ |
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728 | Help on the 69th, 70th Week of Daniel | Dan 9:24 | CDBJ | 80156 | ||
The way I see it all that was ascribed to the King Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled in his day as the Scripture clearly delineates. To assume that Jesus was inferring to seven time from the Greek word, KAIROS in Luke 21:24, is rather stretching what was said when in fact the word “times” could just as easily have been translated sessions with no specific number in mind . Are there seven periods of Gentile domination in Jerusalem that you might give reference to since the time of Daniel? My two cents worth, CDBJ |
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729 | Help on the 69th, 70th Week of Daniel | Dan 9:24 | CDBJ | 80219 | ||
History shows that the prophetic clock stopped when the Jew rejected their Messiah that was why Jesus cursed the fig tree. It stopped at sixty-nine weeks and the Jews were cute out so that we the Genitals could be grafted in. When God is ready he will graft the Jews back in again and the wild olive branch will be removed from the earth. That it when the 70th week start for the Jew and the clock will start ticking. This starting of their final clock will begin when the Jews sign a convenient of protection with one who will deceive them. The convenient which is designed to protect will end up being a pact with death. |
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730 | revelations through angels | Dan 10:9 | CDBJ | 95508 | ||
I was under the impression that this was supposed to be a studyBible forum not a study book of Mormons forum and yes Paul did say that there could be angels that could reveal a message. Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 2 Tim. 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Are you trying to convince the good people of this forum that the book of Mormon carries as much authority as God’s Word, the Bible? Just to set the record straight, please inform, CDBJ |
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731 | revelations through angels | Dan 10:9 | CDBJ | 95519 | ||
If my logic were along those lines I could assume that there is probably something good to eat in a garbage can too, but how could I sort out what is good or bad and look at all the garbage I would have to go through to find it. Wouldn’t it just be easer to stick with God’s Word the Bible because we know that it is all Scripture and inspired of Him? I repeat. 2 Tim. 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Did you neglect to answer my question for a reason? I will reiterate! Do you think that the book of Mormon is equal to God’s word, the Bible and being as authoritative as Scripture? Please don’t sidestep, say what you believe, CDBJ |
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732 | Where is this king from? | Dan 11:36 | CDBJ | 35764 | ||
It's the Antichrist, singular. | ||||||
733 | Where is this king from? | Dan 11:36 | CDBJ | 35882 | ||
I didn't say that it was Antiochus, I only said that he was a forerunner of the Antichrist, there are ways in which the two are different. The one that Daniel was speaking of though is the Antichrist that will perform like a King. He at one point will demand the worship of the world. You must stop and remember that Daniel is looking at this from a Jewish viewpoint or what was known as the time of Jacob's trouble. The same situation is mentioned from a point of view of the Church or body of Christ. 2 Thes. 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. The book of Revelation really goes into more details if you like and can understand metaphors. Rev. 13:1-8 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. I am really not quit sure what it is that you are looking for but I hope this helps. Sometimes I don't understand exactly what it is that people are looking for and I thing that I confuse them more with my answers. There are times when I get a little dense so please be patient. CDBJ |
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734 | daniel 11:37 translation differences | Dan 11:37 | CDBJ | 201248 | ||
Greetings, Could you be so kind as to inform us of the Bible verses that you are trying to explain? Psalm 119:160 The sum of Thy word is truth, And every one of Thy righteous ordinances is everlasting. CDBJ |
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735 | Did OT saints go to heaven? | Dan 12:2 | CDBJ | 102800 | ||
Hi Khuck, From what you are saying do you believe that the tribulation is the time of the wrath of God, and if so do you not believe the following? Philip. 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; 1 Thes. 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know. 2 Thes. 1:5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: Could it be possible that the tribulation period is the wrath of Satan and not the wrath of God and believers will have to endure that period but they will be removed at some point during it and then God will pour His wrath on those that are left? 2 Thes. 1:5-9 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: 6Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Notice when He will do this in the following verse! 2 Thes. 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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736 | Did OT saints go to heaven? | Dan 12:2 | CDBJ | 102833 | ||
Greetings Khuck, What translation are you using that suggest that there are seven scrolls and not seven seals on one scroll? Rev. 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. All the translations that I have only mention one book or scroll, which comes to us from the Koine Greek, and it is the accusative, neuter, singular of the noun, BIBILON, and there are seven seals on the one book that must be broken before the contents of the book can be revealed. The contents of the book is the wrath of God and everything that takes place before the scroll is opened only leads up to God’s wrath, namely the seven seals, which are not the wrath of God but the wrath or vengeance of the devil and his man for the hour, the antichrist. Believers will not experience God’s wrath! There are believers in the tribulation period that can claim this same promise so why would the rapture have to occur before the tribulation, since it isn’t the wrath of God? 1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Gave a great day, CDBJ |
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737 | Did OT saints go to heaven? | Dan 12:2 | CDBJ | 102904 | ||
Greetings Khuck, If you are interested in eschatology you may want to check out the following. http://www.solagroup.org/ Have a great day, CDBJ |
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738 | Where is Babylon? | Joel 2:3 | CDBJ | 139783 | ||
Hi Hank, You make me laugh because I was thinking the same thing; the only difference is I figured that the poor guy must have cut up a bunch of verses out of his Bible then put them in a hat, picked them out with his hands over his eyes then typed them out for the forum! 2 Tim. 2:15-16 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. [16] But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. What a shame I hope he ment well, CDBJ |
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739 | How does God judge and who? | Obad 1:16 | CDBJ | 211172 | ||
Hello BJ, I don’t know of any sins that we have to be obedient to per your question. “what sins people don't have to worry about being obedient to” We as Christians must be obedient to God’s Word or we will find ourselves out of fellowship which leads to the following action. Ephes. 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 1 Thes. 5:19 Quench not the Spirit. CDBJ |
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740 | does God intend for us to pay tithes | Malachi | CDBJ | 194705 | ||
Hi Miller, With your train of thought do you think it might cost more to bribe God if one is rich and at what point does grace actually come into play if at all? CDBJ |
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