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601 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74789 | ||
Hello Hank, in your statement you suggested the following, “Life is present from the moment of conception onward.” If your assumption is true, Life at conception, and without Scripture evidence, how can we explain the situations in Exodus 21: 1-25, where God commands death to those that cause death, yet the death of the unborn child didn’t bring about the same response from God, emphasis on verses 22 and 23. Exodus 21:22-23 NASB "And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide. 23"But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, Now do you see why I have a concern with when soul life starts? Maybe you are convinced But I am not! Have a nice day, CDBJ |
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602 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74799 | ||
Hello Hank, I don't recall seeing to many miscarriages walking around. Exodus 21:22 "And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide. The injury was to the woman according to sentence structure not to the miscarriage, if there was no other injury to the woman besides the problem of loosing the fetus. Love trumps knowledge, CDBJ |
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603 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74829 | ||
Hi Hank, I don’t want to get anyone upset with this I think we should just let it go. I will respond with these last few comments then it’s over. The first verse that you listed was one that I was going to use to point out my position. Psalm 22:10 From birth I was cast upon you; from my mother's womb you have been my God. Doesn’t is say from birth and not from conception? It also says from my mother’s womb. This is the word MEBETEN, which means out from. I think that most of what you listed is dealing with God’s foreknowledge the same way he knew that I would believe on Him from before the foundation of the world yet I wasn’t a new creature in Christ until the point at which I believed. The seed of God’s word was planted and nourished but there was no birth at the time of conception. 1 Peter 1:23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. Hank I could go on and on with this but I don’t think it is a good topic of discussion where there are so many that can’t handle it. There are to many young Christians on this forum that might stumble do to my efforts of trying to explain what I have found. I don’t care to extend this any more and I think you can appreciate why. Just for the record I hate abortion. Love trumps knowledge, Chuck |
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604 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74884 | ||
Well, I have some very bad new for you, I am guilty of murder, in God’s eyes and so are you and every on else on this planet. James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. The judge that tried my case pronounced sentence on me, which was death; then he did something that absolutely blew my mind. He got up from his bench and came down and told me that he loved me, and to prove it he was going to suffer the punishment, that he decided was just for my crime, death. He then ask me something that I will never forget, he ask me if that would be ok with me and that he was willing to do it, I came back with resounded, oh yes, please! Then he did something that really was beyond my wildest imagination. The robe that this judge had on was white, he took it off and put it on me and said there now; when you are looked upon by the supreme judge, he won’t see you anymore, and what you are, he will instead see me. He proceeded to go one better, he said that since I was willing to let him be the substitution for my death, for my crime, that he was going to adopt me as his own son and put me in his will. How can I help but love him? There is still no free lunch someone has to pay the price. 2 Cor. 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. Love trumps Knowledge, CDBJ |
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605 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74886 | ||
I appreciate your concern but as I stated in my previous post that the subject is closed and I gave my reason. A lot of people on this forum should be white house correspondents when it comes to their ability of asking the same question of someone with a slightly different slant. I will resume with the same white house apologetic response I’m sorry next question please. Love trumps knowledge, CDBJ |
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606 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74901 | ||
I am sorry, as I stated for bringing up the subject and I stopped it out of love. It is amazing how things get twisted around and misconstrued don't you think? I am also sorry you are having all of the problems that you listed. | ||||||
607 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74902 | ||
You have completely blown this out of proportion and you are mentioning things that I never even suggested. Why don't I give you my address and you can plant a bomb under my house or something along those lines if it will make you feel better? For the last time, take a hint, please drop the subject CDBJ |
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608 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74933 | ||
Well PJC, you are probable the first one on the forum that hasn’t tried to jump down my throat and you gave a simple explanation of what you presume to be right. Just for sake of definition, hackles are the hairs on a dog’s neck and back that bristle up when the dog is ready to fight. From what I have noticed over the past day I would have been better off to have said that I was opening Pandora’s box! Believers are so certain of this subject that I couldn’t even lead into what my major motive was. I was to busy fending off the arrows that were flying. I finally decided that it would be a better idea just to drop the subject because there are too many that can’t handle it. That’s why I used the closing of love trumps knowledge, which I was also ridiculed for saying. It is not right for me to pursue a topic that causes everyone on the forum to vibrate! After all of the responses that I got and the deviation from my original Comment, “when a human being actually received the human soul, clearly separating biological from soul life.” My whole point seems rather nebulas and abstruse at this time, kind of like not seeing the forest for the trees. If everyone on this forum feels the way they do about when human life and when it actually receives the human soul, and it appears that all who responded do, what's the big deal over cloning? Cloning to going to happen one of these days, if it hasn’t already. If it has a human soul at the point of cell division, which is what every one was so quick to claim, then what is the big deal! We won’t have a leg to stand on, excuse the pun, CDBJ |
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609 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74934 | ||
Well PJC, you are probable the first one on the forum that hasn’t tried to jump down my throat and you gave a simple explanation of what you presume to be right. Just for sake of definition, hackles are the hairs on a dog’s neck and back that bristle up when the dog is ready to fight. From what I have noticed over the past day I would have been better off to have said that I was opening Pandora’s box! Believers are so certain of this subject that I couldn’t even lead into what my major motive was. I was to busy fending off the arrows that were flying. I finally decided that it would be a better idea just to drop the subject because there are too many that can’t handle it. That’s why I used the closing of love trumps knowledge, which I was also ridiculed for saying. It is not right for me to pursue a topic that causes everyone on the forum to vibrate! After all of the responses that I got and the deviation from my original Comment, “when a human being actually received the human soul, clearly separating biological from soul life.” My whole point seems rather nebulas and abstruse at this time, kind of like seeing the forest for the trees. If everyone on this forum feels the way they do about when human life and when it actually receives the human soul, and it appears that all who responded do, what the big deal over cloning? Cloning to going to happen one of these days, if it hasn’t already. If it has a human soul at the point of cell division, which is what every one was so quick to claim then what is the big deal! We won’t have a leg to stand on, excuse the pun, CDBJ |
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610 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 74967 | ||
Hello Tim; Your first point suggested sub class. Why would they be sub class? Your second point mentions using parts. Aren’t we in fact doing that now with hearts, livers, eyes and what all? Your third point, birth, you did away with yourself because the birth isn’t the focal point but the moment that the cells started to divide. According to the forum reasoning, at least to those that jumped down my throat, all that is needed for human soul life is an activated blastocyst with any of the DNA composite of the one to be cloned. Science would even have the ability to bring people back from the dead with this approach. Now wouldn’t that be kick in the seat of the pants? Who knows what this could develop into? Rev. 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. This was where I was trying to go with this but I figured that I better cool it. I don’t know if you read all the post or not but I set myself up apparently as a target. People assumed that I was the opposition and they weren’t going to miss their chance to fire away. Talk about judging ones motives, I never had a chance, CDBJ |
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611 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 75000 | ||
Greetings Tim, I don’t know as I have ever heard that response before regarding the soul, you stated, “Personally, I don't believe that we 'have' a soul. I believe that we have a spiritual nature and a physical nature, and that these two together make us a living soul.” I’m sure you have an answer for the following, see that you know your Bible so well? Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Adam was warned that he would die (the day) that he ate of the fruit. We know that he lived to be over 930 years old then died physically, and that being the case something had to have died the day that he ate the fruit and it wasn’t his body. The Bible tell us the there is a division between the soul and the spirit and it’s distinguishable through the use of God’s Word. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. I was always under the impression that all born believers were in agreement on this issue now you are throwing this old boy a curve. Would you care to express your view on this, I’m confused? CDBJ |
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612 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 75014 | ||
Hi Tim, It me again, I agree with you 100 per. on your statement, “where there is human life, there is a soul.” Could you answer that part of my question that I ask in my last post? “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Adam was warned that he would die (the day) that he ate of the fruit. We know that he lived to be over 930 years old then died physically, and that being the case something had to have died the day that he ate the fruit and it wasn’t his body.” What was it that died and that Jesus said had to be born again if it wasn’t the spirit? It has always been my impression that it was through the human spirit that we are able to communicate to God and this wasn’t functioning until the rebirth took place. |
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613 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | CDBJ | 75020 | ||
Then you don’t agree with the idea that when Jesus said you must be born again that he wasn’t referring to man’s spirit as that part of Adam that died in the garden? If that is the case then being able to see the Kingdom of God isn’t speaking of perception but actual visual contact. If what you are suggesting is true then why would Paul suggest that all this had to take place after their faith Christ. Col. 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; Couldn’t this spiritual understanding have come before salvation if they had a living spirit? I have been always been lead to believe that the Dichotomist man couldn’t perceive the things of God because he didn’t have a living spirit. 1 Cor. 2:14 But the natural man (psuchikos) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Isn’t the psuchi the soul part of man? Spiritually discerned, i.e. his receiver wasn’t in working order, he doesn’t understand the signals that are being conveyed. Mark 4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. I hope we can talk more on this, unless this is getting in to the old A. verses C. thing, in which case I will drop it. CDBJ |
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614 | Is Universalism Scriptural | Lev 16:34 | CDBJ | 198756 | ||
Hi Nick, All of the verses that you mentioned are absolutely true in fact to prove it, God Himself, came into the world and paid the awesome price that the righteousness of God demanded for each one of us. Acts 20:28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. Where the problem comes in is when anyone reject or refuse what God has done for them in the person of His Son Jesus. God will not force anyone to accept His gracious gift of eternal life, which actually resides “in” the person Jesus. 1 John 5:11 And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. It’s like throwing a life line to a drowning man and he down right refuses to take hold and be hauled in. After refusing “all” possible attempt the ship must sail on, even though the drowning man is in the middle of the ocean and sinking. There are only two alternatives in this life. God’s provision for eternal life in Christ or what God has prepared for the devil and his angels. When anyone refuses God’s Son they are sealing their own fate. God only has one plan for mankind’s rescue and that fantastic plan resides in the One and only precious Messiah of God; Jesus The Christ. 2 Cor. 5:21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. God “can’t possibly” help anyone that doesn’t rely “totally” on Jesus Christ for their eternal life. If God would save them anyway it would jeopardize God’s character and make Him a liar. John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." CDBJ |
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615 | Should we bias our religious studies? | Lev 18:22 | CDBJ | 60689 | ||
Hi Hank, your post mentioned a quotation that Jesus made in John. John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. This is where a lot of people come up short by not acting on the next verse. John 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. This is where the reading stops and the reality must take hold if one is to be a child of God by actually going to Jesus our Savior. The precious part is that we all have to come the same way and there is a genuine bond with true believers without any mention of a denomination. (JUST GIVE ME JESUS) Maybe it is not given to them of the Father, I don’t know but it sure is a burden that I have with some of the people in my local church. John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. I have been off line for quite a while, my PC got very sick for a while; it is good to hear from you! CDBJ |
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616 | Should we bias our religious studies? | Lev 18:22 | CDBJ | 60720 | ||
The fact that Jesus rose from the dead should be proof enough for anyone that he was telling the truth. There is no need to look any further or to base ones hope on superstitious supposition; we believe in a living Savior. | ||||||
617 | Wearing the clothes of the Priests? | Lev 19:19 | CDBJ | 193423 | ||
There is no designated garb for the son's of God that is to be worn by the royal priesthood. All of the ritual is done away with since the actual has arrived and the real thing accomplished. Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. CDBJ |
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618 | Verses as proof for an essay? | Lev 20:13 | CDBJ | 62703 | ||
The part in your post that says (God clearly tells us a child is born without sin) I am afraid I would disagree with this. The old sin nature is passed down to us even at birth because we are all born of Adam. 1 Cor. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. That is why Jesus was not born of the seed of Adam. He had a human mother but his Father was God. Thus he wasn’t born with an old sin nature like all the rest of us. CDBJ |
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619 | Acts 2:1 | Lev 23:15 | CDBJ | 219048 | ||
Greetings Synchronicity Podcast, It’s nice to hear from others on the forum that are so well informed when it comes to the deeper knowledge of Bible doctrine. That being said I would like to enlighten you about an issue that might not have crossed you mind and that is the posting, on your User Info section, about the pushing to the forefront your personal Web Site. This according to the terms of use is a major infraction with our host, the Lockman foundation. I would hate to lose a gifted new member such as yourself because you weren’t aware of the problem; if you would be so hind and change this toward a more personal slant I’m sure it would be highly appreciated and eliminate any conflict of interest. Yours in Christ, CDBJ |
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620 | Acts 2:1 | Lev 23:15 | CDBJ | 219104 | ||
Greetings friend, I read your personal user profile, and being as dense as I am, I’m not sure what it is exactly that you are trying to say? Some things have to be spelled out for people like me that don’t grasp things very quickly; Are you trying to say that you are a Seventh Day Adventist or what? Please help me out, CDBJ |
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