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661 | Are there any true prophets/prophetss' t | Eph 4:11 | BradK | 194483 | ||
Hi Tim, As I view it, there is a transition happening during this period of Acts that coincides with the writing of 1 Corinthians. The gifts had not yet ended at the time Paul writes 1 Corinthians (obviously). Yet, in 13:8 he says that love (which is not a "sign" gift) "never fails". I believe the Greek verb 'pistei' translated can mean "become null and void". The overall characteristic God desires in the life of believers is love.(13:1,13) Other temporary gifts will be done away with, cease and end, but love is permanent! With respect to prophecies, Paul says, "They will be done away". The Greek noun 'propheteiai' used in this context, refers to one of the early gifts given to members of the Church (Rom. 12:6, 1 Cor. 12:10, 13:2). The gift enabled those to whom it was given to recall and speak via the Spirit to those in local assemblies (cf 14:22, Eph. 3:5). The person who had the gift of prophecy edified, exhorted and taught believers (14:3-4, 33). My point is this: Even though gifts of prophecies were very important for establishing the Church, Paul says, "they will be done away". The verb here translated "they will be done away" is in the future tense and passive voice, which means that God -who gave them - will remove (cancel, make null)them. With the completion of the Canon of Scripture, this gift was (and is) no longer necessary. So, the question as to exactly WHEN these gifts cease (or ceased) is answered.(Heb. 1:1-2) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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662 | Are there any true prophets/prophetss' t | Eph 4:11 | BradK | 194458 | ||
Hi Tim, Thanks for your perspective on this. I wouldn't disagree as to what these scriptures say. I acknowledge that there are no scriptures which say that spiritual gifts have ceased- or in this case the office of prophet has been done away. However, what I contend is based upon the 2 following verses: 1 Cor 13:8 - Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. Cor 13:13- But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love. Does not vs. 8 state that "if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away"? If so, doesn't this impact and negate the gift/role of prophet? I think so. In vs. 13 there are only 3 remaining- faith, hope , and love. Absent are prophecy, tongues and knowledge! Why only these 3? If prophecy is still in efect, why does Paul not mention them? I believe there is some grammatical support on this too! Additionally, I find little- if anything- in the rest of the Pauline Epistles that argue for the continuation of this office (other than Eph. 4:11). This has served to convince me that the cessationist view certainly more than not, holds merit:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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663 | Are there any true prophets/prophetss' t | Eph 4:11 | BradK | 194454 | ||
Miller, Please stop being absurd! The burden of proof is on YOU to prove otherwise! If you still think there are prophets, then by all means provide the Forum with the appropriate scriptures to back it up. Otherwise, stop the speculation and "shoot-from-the-hip" conjecture! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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664 | Are there any true prophets/prophetss' t | Eph 4:11 | BradK | 194440 | ||
Hello michael, I'm not sure what in the "five-fold ministry" in 4:11-12 would claim prophets are still relevent? The basic concern I- and anyone should have- is extra-biblical revelation trumping the written Word of God. Where do you draw the line? Is the Word our final arbiter and authority or is it not? If the office of prophet is stll active, that tells me God has not really spoken all and His Word is not complete! I think the case for any so-called "prophet" is tenuous at best! Here is what the late NT Greek scholar Kenneth Weust said of this passage: "Paul identifies the gifts spoken of in verse 7. They are gifted men, given to the Church. There is an intensive pronoun in the Greek text. “He Himself gave,” and no other. He gave some saints as apostles. The word speaks in a primary sense of the twelve apostles, and in a secondary sense, of those who proclaim the Word of God today. “Prophets” refers, not to those who foretell the future, but to preachers and expounders of the Word." [Kenneth S. Wuest, Wuest's Word Studies from the Greek New Testament] Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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665 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194408 | ||
Hello miller, Allow me to make one final observation now that I have had a bit more time to have thought through your argument. I think your "distinction is one of great importance", is a false one! With no disrespect, you have invented something that doesn't(necessarily) exist; You assume those that are the group in Acts 4:31 are the same that Peter preached to in Acts 2? I think this is also false! I do not believe scripture (clearly) supports this. Notice 4:23, ".. they went to their own ('friends'- ESV, YLT). If they were they same group of believers as in Acts 2, why does verse 4:31 read, "...they were all filled with the Holy Spirit..."? It doesn't say, they were filled again, or a second time, etc. No such distinction exists! There is simply no indication that these believers were "retreads" filled a second time. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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666 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194402 | ||
Hello miller, I'm sorry,my friend! I just am not able to fully comprehend the distinction you're making! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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667 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194400 | ||
Hello miller, OK, I understand that Acts is the basis for this discussion. (We may very well have divergent views on the purpose of Acts for the Church age, but that's another discussion.) It would be very helpful to stick with and use Biblical terms and definitions! From which scripture(s) do you derive and support this distinction of "BY the Holy Spirit, which is what has happed at the new birth, to being baptized INTO the Spirit."??? What scripture says that a believer, "doesn't mean they are immersed into it."??? Still in love, I await your reply:-) BradK |
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668 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194397 | ||
Miller, How so? Your loosing me a bit. What SCRIPTURAL basis can I draw from to understand this? Acts 1 has come and gone. A believer is either baptized by the Spirit (1 Cor. 12:13) and has the Spirit or not (Rom. 8:9) Are you talking about 2 different and distinct fillings/blessings, or what? How would you then define success? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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669 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194396 | ||
Hello miller, OK, once again I'm a little confused by your terminology! What scripture tells us we are "not totally immersed into the Holy Ghost"? Are you possibly referring to Eph. 5:18?- "And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit" The idea being that we (as believers) need to CONTINUALLY keep on being filled with the Spirit? (cf. Gal. 5:16). Example using an analogy: Cars run on gas, but they also eventually run out and need to be refilled. A car can only go so far on a tank of gas. Hence, a believer needs to be refueled so-to speak witht he Spirit. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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670 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194393 | ||
Hello miller, OK, here's where my confusion stems from. You stated "He wants to totally immerse you into that anointing, into that Spirit so that you can have power to live a successful life." I hear what you're saying, but WHAT does this mean? Can you provide a scriptural framework to explain this? It would seem that you're referring to the process of sanctification! As 1 Cor. 1:30 tells us, "But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,..." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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671 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194390 | ||
Hello miller, I'm following you as far as the scripture references you gave. Iunderstand them fine. I guess my confusion is in understanding your conclusion? I'm not sure what you're concluding in comparison to what I understand about the Spirit's work and operation in the believer! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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672 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194386 | ||
Hello miller, So, are you saying that one must be TOTALLY immersed in (or by) water to be "immersed into the Holy Spirit" I'm not quite following. One either has the Spirit or they don't (Rom. 8:9) Can you clarify? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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673 | The possible hindrance agsinst being use | 2 Cor 8:12 | BradK | 194362 | ||
Hello EddieB, Welcome to the Forum. Based on your answer- "But of course, we must be willing to be used, and that is a great start" , are you saying that we can somehow limit God? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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674 | Romans 5:6-8 how it shows Gods love | Rom 5:6 | BradK | 194182 | ||
canawedding, Please, stop the self-righteous, "holier-than-thou" attitude. You do not have an exclusive corner on the truth! Matt. 6:33 is not the sum total of everything taught in scripture and it is not the only scripture! Prov. 19:20 says- " Listen to counsel and accept discipline, That you may be wise the rest of your days." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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675 | Rom 5 What happened to our old selves? | Col 3:3 | BradK | 194125 | ||
Hello lee, I wouldn't say Paul directly addresses that question in Romans 5. He deals more specifically with this issue in Eph. 4 and Col. 3. However, I believe the text of Rom. 5:1-2 answers the question of what we've received: Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, Rom 5:2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God. 1. we have peace with God (vs. 1); 2.we stand in grace (vs. 2); 3. and we exult in hope of the glory of God (vs. 2) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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676 | Where is America headed right now? | Bible general Archive 3 | BradK | 194027 | ||
Wanda, Our "hope" is in Him, not is some guy who has some "prophecies"! Jesus is the spirit of prophecy (Rev. 19:10). Ps 39:7 -"And now, Lord, for what do I wait? My hope is in You." (NASB) Note Luke 13:1-5 as well. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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677 | Romans 5:6-8 how it shows Gods love | Rom 5:6 | BradK | 194026 | ||
Hello cana..., A.W. Pink wrote this about love in his "Attributes of God". I think it applies to this question: "The love of God is uninfluenced. By this we mean, there was nothing whatever in the objects of His love to call it into exercise, nothing in the creature to attract or prompt it. The love which one creature has for another is because of something in them; but the love of God is free, spontaneous, uncaused. The only reason why God loves any is found in His own sovereign will: "The Lord did not set His love upon you, nor choose you because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: but because the Lord loved thee" (Deut. 7:7,8). God has loved His people from everlasting, and therefore nothing of the creature can be the cause of what is found in God from eternity. He loves from Himself: "according to His own purpose" (2 Tim. 1:9). "We love Him, because He first loved us" (1 John 4:19). God did not love us because we loved Him, but He loved us before we had a particle of love for Him. Had God loved us in return for ours, then it would not be spontaneous on His part; but because He loved us when we were loveless, it is clear that His love was uninfluenced. It is highly important if God is to be honored and the heart of His child established, that we should be quite clear upon this precious truth. God’s love for me, and for each of "His own," was entirely unmoved by anything in them. What was there in me to attract the heart of God? Absolutely nothing. But, to the contrary, everything to repel Him, everything calculated to make Him loathe me—sinful, depraved, a mass of corruption, with "no good thing" in me." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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678 | God allowing things in our lives | 2 Tim 3:16 | BradK | 193982 | ||
Hello miller, If I mayn be so blunt as to suggest 2 things?: 1. Show a little more thought in your replies- less emotion, 2. Be a bit more Biblically sound in your points This will go a long way toward a better- more edifying dialog that will serve the Forum:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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679 | Money - the answer for everything? | Ecclesiastes | BradK | 193757 | ||
Dear yonder..., FYI- As the question is well over 3 years old and the original poster only submitted that one post, I doubt you'll get a reply:-) In Him, BradK |
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680 | When are names put in the Book of Life | Heb 6:4 | BradK | 193312 | ||
Hello cana, You stated "Paul wrote about Mt 6:33 in Ro 1:16-21." How so? Could you elaborate? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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