Subject: Hank - Doctrine from God or Man ? |
Bible Note: Ed: Let me get this straight !!! Before man fell to sin - what was the purpose God had for us. Let me see "was it not to love and worship Him" and in return He would bless and love us" We had a relationship with God prior to sin. God loved us deeply and His only requirment was to love God uncoinditionally and obey His commands which were given to bless us and keep us from evil. Now God gave us the creation to enjoy and fill our days with blessings but the only reason God created a 7th day - was for rest AND He "santified" it or set it apart. Time was set apart by God so we would be able during the week to put all things aside - REST - and have the time to really focus on GOD - even though we would always want during the week to please God and fellowship with Him. But this was a specific time alotted by God for this fellowship which would not be competing with any other activites. You seem to be saying that "if" the day was changed from a day of rest to a day of worship - that was a bad thing done by the Jews. Does that really make sense. You do not think Gopd wants our worship. I cannot see you point at all. Even Jesus when He walked with the Jews - went to the synagogue. Never once do we see Jesus condemming the Jewish synogogue worship service. There is just no evidence. Instead it says that Paul and Jesus went and "stood up to read". Sabbath or worship on Sabbath was never condemned by Jesus. He rebuked the Pharisees for making it a burden because they lost sight of not the "resting" part (they added plenty of rest requirments) but the part of loving God through sincere worship which would mean doing "good" on the Sabbath - not just following all there burdensome "added" requirements of the Sabbath. Well if pastors do not think the 1st day replaced the 7th then why not keep the original Sabbath 7th. But most don't. Very few denomination keep the Sabbath (7th) day. I am sorry but clear logic means that if you are resting from routine activites then you have time to do what ????? Worship God together. Clealy, Lev.23:2 - says "holy convocation". Gathering together to worship the God they love and in return loves them. Obviously, God's love in not contigent on man's love. Jews did not make it into a worship day - God made it for worship and fellowship with Him because man was free from daily (day 1-6) activities. Yes they did not collect manna - Why cause God provided it. So they did not have to do any work. Jesus - did not say "more or less" he was the Sabbath or He would have said it. Do not make general statements where there no scripture to back them up. Jesus clearly said He was Lord of the Sabbath. So I guess that means He cancelled it and moved it to his future resurection. Meaning that if His disciples broke a Jewish law of collecting food - since Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and these are His disciples doing His work of His ministry then I guess gathering some food was ok according to God's purpose of His ministry. But by no means does Jesus say we are to begin working on the Sabbath or cease from coming together on the Sabbath to "convocate" together to love and worship Him. Will continue, Merv Merv |