Subject: jehovahs witnesses |
Bible Note: victora, you are welcome to have your say but the fact remains the JW's and the watchtower organization are a cult. As to your referenceto Colossians 1:15 The translation of 1:15-17 has posed a problem for many who study this important passage about Jesus' relation to creation. This text of Scripture avers the same teaching about Jesus as found in John1:1, namely that He preceded creation and is the cause of all creation. some advocate an unorthodox view from this passage in saying that Jesus was in reality the first creature that God the Father created and that Jesus then was used by God to creat all other creation. They do so by arguing that firstborn of all creation Translaeting v.15 over as of means He was first thing created and that the subsequent verses should be translated all other things have been created through Him and He is before all other things. The difficulty of this attempt to deny Jesus Christ His stature as Creator is that 1. of all creation in the greek is a genitive case @. the meaning of begotten and 3. the fact that the Greek word for other does not occur in the text at all. First in the statement speaks of Christ's priority to creation and sovereignty oover all creation.The words of all creation are the object of firstborn rather than firstborn being the object of of all creation. Second begotten is not the same as creation the words are clearly distinguished in the passage. God begets the Son but the Son creats the world. When a man begets he begets a man when God begets He begets God and this from eternity. Creation on the other hand is not the same as God. Third to put other in the passage if foreign to the discussion of the text and is merely an attempt to explain away the meaning of the text that Jesus the Creator created all things. From the Nelson Complete Study System product number 2885. That should handle ths Colossians question. To deal with the passage in John Christ is refering to his human nature to go a little futher with this lets look at John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him because He not only broke the Sabbath but also said that God was His Father making Himself EQUAL with God. No matter how much some folks two thousand years later want to say that Jesus never claimed to be God Scripture proves this wrong.For more clarification on this issue let us look to Philippians 2:5-11 " Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who being in the form of God did not consider it robbery to be equal with God but made Himself of no reputation taking the form of a bondservent and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow of those in Heaven and of those on earth and of those under the earth and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. How much clearer could the diety of Jesus Christ be. He HImself makes Himself equal to God because He is God. For this reason the denial of Jesus Christ as God among many others there is no salvation in JW theology at all it is simply a fast track to Hell regardless if you belive in Hell or not. The Jesus of The JW's is not the Jesus revealed in the Bible that is why the Jw's had to go back and rewrite the KJV version of the Bible to make it fit there own ideals. They can not claim they translated this as it has already been proven in a court of law that the people on the translation committee could not read the original lanuages. Good deeds will not get one to Heaven, unbelisf in hell will not keep one out of hell. Only belief in Jesus Christ as revealed in the Bible repentance toward God and surrender to the Lordship of Jesus Christ will get one to Heaven anything elese will end one up in hell. In The Love Of Christ, tgc |