Subject: Early church support for Peter as Pope? |
Bible Note: JVH0212 You again jump in way too deep. Read what I said. Did I say Luther was wrong? Did I say the church was right? The situation of the church at the time of Luther was despicable at best and horrendous at worst, that is fact. What Luther did was courageous. It is what occurred after that I question. I see many men jumping in on one side or the other of the issue not for Godly reasons but for reasons of gain, power, and probably some with anarchical feelings wanting to see the “establishment brought down”. Incidentally Luther’s intention was not withdrawal out of the church but reformation within it. And yes he was left with no option but to leave. However by his own testimony he realized people on both sides of the issue had used him for political, financial and power seizing gains thus forcing that conclusion. He expressed regret he allowed it to happen, again not what he did but for allowing others to get between him and the church. Also remember Luther was not all saint, he is the guy that said Jews were vermin and that their tongues should be removed from their heads by going in through the back of their necks. Not the most Christian like statement wouldn’t you agree? Luther made many contributions to religion for which I'm most thankful. However that was not my question or statement. I questioned how many (without naming names) men of the reformation were in it for the right reasons. I then wondered, out loud if you will, what would the church look like today if all those men that were involved for all the wrong reason had remained out. JVH0212 I was not defending the church nor tearing down the reformers I was as you say Monday morning quarterbacking and wondering what if. Sorry if that offended you! |