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NASB | Revelation 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 14:1 Then I looked, and this is what I saw: the Lamb stood [firmly established] on Mount Zion, and with Him a hundred and forty-four thousand who had His name and His Father's name inscribed on their foreheads [signifying God's own possession]. [Joel 2:32] |
Bible Question (short): Two different groups of 144,000? |
Question (full): Using this as my logic train: "Thy will be done on earth as is IS in Heaven." (Matthew 6:10) suggests action on earth as a result of the reality of Heaven. Premise: There are Heavenly patterns and Earthly copies. (As opposed to satan's counterfeits!) Here are some I came up with: Man was created in the image of God (Gen 2:7) See also 1 Cor 15:45 The earthly tabernacle has a Heavenly counterpart. (Gen 25:9) It is also interesting to note that John saw the "Ark of the Covenant" in the Heavenly Temple. (Rev 11:19) Because we see a pattern of things in heaven being copied on earth, consider also Mount Zion. "But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly," Hebrews 12:22 Although the heavenly mount Zion is mirrored on earth in many references, I've chosen Joel 2:32 - "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call." Keeping these two references in mind, Consider Rev 14:1 "Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads." Where is THIS mount Zion of Rev 14:1 located? At this point in the Revelation of Jesus to John, the Second Coming of Christ has not occurred. Therefore, I believe that this scene of worship that John describes takes place on mount Zion in Heaven, not on mount Zion on Earth. This then leads me to my next question: "Who are these 144,000?" Because the description of the 144,000 of Rev 14 is different from those of Rev 7, is it reasonable to conclude that perhaps the 144,000 redeemed of Rev 14 are the "heavenly pattern" that we see copied in the 144,000 sealed from the tribes of Israel in Rev 7? Consider: the 144,000 sealed of Rev 7 will be chosen from the tribes of Israel. But according to Rev 14:4, this group of 144,000 are redeemed. They were "purchased,” (bought with the blood of Jesus) "from every tribe and tongue and people and nation." See Rev 5:9. Therefore, can we conclude that the 144,000 "saints" of Rev 14 are a select group of Christ's followers who reside in Heaven and who will accompany Him on His return to earth as described in Rev 17:14, 19:14? |