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NASB | Revelation 11:1 Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, "Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 11:1 Then there was given to me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, "Rise and measure the temple of God and the altar [of incense], and [count] those who worship in it. [Ezek 40-42] |
Bible Question:
Matt 24:15 "Therefore WHEN you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), You said ... If your "sources dare to suggest" that Jesus was referring to the Dan 11 and 12 portions - it's past time to exchange that erroneous material for qualified truth. I have not checked any experts, yet. But, if you want to take away (pick and choose what you want) from Scripture, so be it. Well ... it is the same the false Christs and prophets have done and will do. You and your sources have no basis to exclude part of what Daniel said. But, let us see what the Bible says: Dan 9:27 "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate." ... Do you see "abomination of desolation" in this passage which you have used ... or does it say "wing of abominations". Choose one. Dan 11:31 "Forces from him will arise, desecrate the sanctuary fortress, and do away with the regular sacrifice. And they will set up the abomination of desolation." ... Do you see "abomination of desolation" in this passage which you don't want? Yes or no - choose one. ... What does the context say? Dan 12:11 "From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days." ... Do you see "abomination of desolation" in this passage which you don't want? Yes or no - choose one. ... What does the context say? You ask ... Where do you get the wild idea Jesus was talking about "1290 days and the 1335 days as future"? Jesus said "WHEN" He was pointing forward, not to the past. If you think otherwise, you need to study the Greek and maybe even English. Hotan is the word for when ... Apo is the word for since, that I think He would have used. The word "WHEN" is key ... if He was pointing back, He would have said "SINCE". A partially fulfilled prophecy is not fulfilled. If I would to say someone is coming in 15 days to preach and sing "Blue Suede Shoes" and wearing them ... if someone came in 11 days to preach and sang "Blue Suede Shoes" and wearing them ... what I said hasn't been fulfilled. ... if someone came in 15 days to and sang "Blue Suede Shoes" and wearing them ... what I said hasn't been fulfilled. ... SINCE this verse was only partially fulfilled, I am waiting for WHEN it is completely fulfilled. You have questions to answer ... In Dan 9:27, do you see "abomination of desolation" ... or does it say "wing of abominations". Choose one. ... In Dan 11:31, do you see "abomination of desolation" in this passage? Yes or no - choose one. ... What does the context say? ... In Dan 12:11, do you see "abomination of desolation" in this passage? Yes or no - choose one. ... What does the context say? ... Who gave you the authority to pick and choose which parts of the prophecy of Daniel? |
Bible Answer: Searcher56: Hi, Justme here. May I offer an observation in your dialogue with Taleb? I hope you said yes. I think Taleb may be of the Almillennial view of understanding Scripture. Correct me, but I think after reading your notes, you may be in the Dispensational Premillennial understanding of Scripture. At least your dialogue gave me the hint of this. If this is the case neither of you is likely to get the other to change their view. Both views can be held to the light, and have valid representation in past theologians and Biblical scholors. The same can be said for thelogians of today. Even though this seems like a major difference of understanding Scripture, there is no reason to not enjoy a good serious debate. I enjoyed your notes and use of scripture to back your position. Personally, I take Matthew 24 and 25:1-13 and let Jesus speak exact, and perfectly as Jesus said it would be. I keep it in context with the rest of subsequent verses in Scripture and if my view does not agree. I back up and see what it is Jesus said that I don't understand. Everything must agree with what Jesus said, or I have a misunderstanding. That makes sense to me, this is not always simple, and requires more study, from my perspective. Peace and blessings. justme |