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NASB | 1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 John 2:2 And He [that same Jesus] is the propitiation for our sins [the atoning sacrifice that holds back the wrath of God that would otherwise be directed at us because of our sinful nature--our worldliness, our lifestyle]; and not for ours alone, but also for [the sins of all believers throughout] the whole world. |
Subject: The 'Kosmos' in 1 John |
Bible Note: Tim: How does the Arminian interpret Jesus' conversation with the Jewish leaders here? "Then He said again to them, 'I go away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin; where I am going, you cannot come.' So the Jews were saying, 'Surely He will not kill Himself, will He, since He says, "Where I am going, you cannot come"? And He was saying to them, 'You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.'" --John 8:21-24 It seems from this passage that those who will not believe in Christ will die in THEIR sins. How is this possible if all sin was propitiated at the cross? And just a side note: Arminians also do not take every instance of "all" to mean "every single one." To be fair, you should point out that the Reformed do not say that "all" means "some," but rather we disagree as to whom the "all" is referring to. For instance, Ananias says to Saul: "For you will be a witness for Him to all men of what you have seen and heard." --Acts 22:15 Was Paul really a witness to all men? Even if we consider his epistles a "witness," is he even today a witness to ALL men? One more example, so as not to belabor the point. I would think that you would agree that every human being is not justified, but we have verses like this: "So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men." --Romans 5:18 Now if we take this verse by itself, it would seem to teach universalism. We may disagree on the interpretation of this verse in its context, but I would think you would admit that ALL are not justified, since that comes through faith in Christ. The context qualifies words like "all," Tim. That is why we can go to 2 Peter 3:9 and say that the "all" in that instance could very well mean "all the elect" (cf. 2 Peter 1:1-2) rather than "all of humanity" (which clearly will NEVER happen). --Joe! |