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NASB | Hebrews 12:6 FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISCIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Hebrews 12:6 FOR THE LORD DISCIPLINES and CORRECTS THOSE WHOM HE LOVES, AND HE PUNISHES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES and WELCOMES [TO HIS HEART]." [Prov 3:11, 12] |
Subject: what's your preference |
Bible Note: I’ve taken just a few of your statements and compared them to scripture for you. You said, …”for if you have not exercised a perfect, flawless character, then you have not yet fully submitted to the authority of God.” 1John 1:5-10: 5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. Scripture tells us we still sin and what we are if we deny that. Our flawless character will not happen on this earth. If that was the case, we had no need for a savior. As a matter of fact, scripture tells us just how unrighteous we are. Romans 3:10-12: 10 as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God. 12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one." You said “And I'm pretty confident that God has not forced you to obey Him... which ultimately means His authority to rule over you is limited by your own free will.” 1Timothy 6:13-16: 13 I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who in his testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, 14 to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which he will display at the proper time--he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen. As shown here and many other places, God is sovereign. He can and does direct human affairs as He desires whether you want to admit that or not. You said, “Scripture is not a weapon, to be used against other people. It is not a tool to prove one man right against another.” In previous post, I’ve shown where it is a weapon, but it is also a tool used for proving what is right. 2Timothy 3:16,17: 16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work. You said, “But, like an earthly king, the great King of kings has built-in limits to His authority, as well.” Romans 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 1Corinthians 15:27 For "God has put all things in subjection under his feet." But when it says, "all things are put in subjection," it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. Psalms 8:6 You have given him dominion over the works of your hands; you have put all things under his feet, You said, …”simply means that homosexuals choose not to give themselves 100 percent entirely over to God's authority to rule over them” Romans 1:24-32: 24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. Do we really need to continue to this? Much of what you have posted is a very poor representation of what the Word of God says. Please understand whose word you are representing poorly. You can do want you want with mine without any consequence. Stand in His grace, WOS |