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Subject: A 2nd and 3rd coming of Christ? Intro |
Bible Note: Hi Kalos, I don't have my books with me, but aren't there only about 4 or 5 references in the Ante-Nicene writings that meantion this topic at all? To say "vast majority" makes it sound like there is this great body of evidence, but was the tribulation even written of in more then a couple of sentences by a few people? I seem to remember that what they actaully wrote was that the church would be raptured at the same time Jesus ended the rule of the beast, at the end of the 70th Week, and not a minute before. While they understood the church would experience the persecution of the antichrist, they also understood that the church would equally experience all the the plagues and judgments of the 70th Week. So that the Ante-Nicene writings are contrary to both the Pre-Trib and Pre-Wrath raptures, in exactly the same way, that all judgments will have been completed before the rapture. So the only rapture model that agrees with the "vast majority" of Ante-Nicene writings is the Post-Tribulation rapture. So while Gundry states that the Ante-Nicene writers agree with him, that the church is persecuted by antichrist, he neglects to state that they disagree with him on the church experiencing the plagues and judgments. Love in Christ, Mark |