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NASB | 1 Timothy 1:6 For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Timothy 1:6 Some individuals have wandered away from these things into empty arguments and useless discussions, |
Subject: Fruitless Scripture Discussion? |
Bible Note: bowler, You said "When someone asks a question that is personal in nature, but there is definetely scripture that attends the problem with a literal interpretation, then this should not be seen as offering and "opinion" or pushing ones' view. Literal interpretation is literal interpretation, it is not an opinion, or advice, or pushing a view." Agreed! But claiming literal interpretation for ones opinion does not make it a literal interpretation! Seems you missed the point altogether. I failed in trying to explain myself so let me try again. Point: Some times, the wise thing to do is point someone to another who is actually equipped to deal with the issue. Your opinions, even if you believe them to be literal interpretation of the scripture and even if they are literal interpretation of scripture are better left on the shelf for the sake of the one who needs helping. The one who is actually equipped to minister to the person in need can not only point them to the truth that the person needs to know and understand, but also can help them work through all that will be required of them to embrace that truth and live it! Let me point you to a perfect example of what I'm trying to get across. Go and read post number 206736. Our brother Hank, one of our elder brothers in the Lord who is more qualified then most on this forum to give an accurate biblical interpretation of scripture shows much godly wisdom in his approach to an issue just like we are discussing now. He could have addressed the issue from scripture but he understands this person needed much more then he could provide with text on a screen. So with compassion he seeks to encourage this person to seek the help they need. And knowing brother Hank like I do I feel confident that he then prayed for this person. If he reads this and I'm wrong I'm sure he will correct me :-) In regards to the Calvinism and Arminianism issue you said "I actually went through some of the branches on that to see what you were talking about. What I found was that some only appeared to have grace on the surface and once the line of sovereignty was crossed in the discussion it digressed into the judgmental, or bordering on being crass in response." Well, seeing how this is all you had to say about this, I have to say this is much to broad a statement leaving the readers of this forum with the impression that any and all who ever discussed this subject only "appeared to have grace on the surface". I would encourage you to read more then a sampling. That way you would be in a better position to cast your judgment. But here again, the point was to show you a topic that when discussed, many times leads to "Fruitless Scripture Discussion". bowler, you closed with this... "By the way what I was asking for was how to interpret a specific scripture in how to apply it - the whole paragraph there before and after in the scripture is definitely about what topics are acceptable to be discussing - to try to understand which ones would be off limits is not asking for an opinion, it is asking for clarification." I pointed you to other scripture for reference and tried to show you application you can see right here on the forum. I take it my attempt did not measure up to your opinion of what you thought the answer should be. What can I say? Steve PS. Don't let the word opinion disturb you. Anyone claiming they don't give opinion simply set themselves up as an authority. That's even more disturbing! Not many around here will buy into that unless the person is spot on ever time and even then (if there were to ever be a then) it would not make one authoritative in regards to the scripture. |