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NASB | 1 Corinthians 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at [the sound of] the last trumpet call. For a trumpet will sound, and the dead [who believed in Christ] will be raised imperishable, and we will be [completely] changed [wondrously transformed]. |
Subject: follow up to 1 corinth 15 question |
Bible Note: Greetings Cmfrantz, I have noticed that you are a new user at this Forum and I welcome you! I invite you to perhaps give a little bit of information about your background in your User Profile. You reply: "In regards to Romans 5:9--The wrath would be the Bowls, wouldnt it? If the last trumpet is the 7th trumpet then we would be raptured before the bowls start. The bowls being Gods wrath. The seals, trumpets, and the bowls are all taking place in the sevenieth week. This week being the tribulation. I am only stating with how I am understanding it thus far. I am open to listen to other theorys." I appreciate your openness and receptivity on this issue! Romans 5:9 "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him." (KJV) If we examine Romans 5:9 in its proper context, the 'saving from wrath' is the saving from eternal wrath (John 3:36) because the Son has justified us. Within the context, Romans 5:9 does not have anything to do with the Tribulation or persecution in general. I personally do not believe in a Pretribulationist point of view, but this verse (Romans 5:9) is cited frequently by those who do believe in the Pretribulationist point of view. According to my point of view (Pre-Wrath), the rapture of the saints initiates God's wrath, which happens on the very same day (Luke 17:22, 26-30) "but on that day.." (Luke 17:29-30) of the beginning of God's wrath. Therefore, if the rapture of the saints and the Day of the Lord happen on the same day, then the timing of the rapture is significantly narrowed because of the fact that it would be tied to the timing of the Day of the Lord. I agree with you when you say that God's people will be raptured before the seven bowl judgments start, which is God's wrath on the unrepentant: "Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts." (Rev. 9:21, KJV) It is a shame that the church is so focused on the timing of the rapture instead of on the condition of our hearts at the timing of Christ's return. If there is one thing that I can say for Pretribulationism, it stresses the immediacy for repentance: "I tell you that He will bring about justice for them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?" (Luke 18:8) Blessings to you, Makarios |