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NASB | 1 Corinthians 11:29 For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 11:29 For anyone who eats and drinks [without solemn reverence and heartfelt gratitude for the sacrifice of Christ], eats and drinks a judgment on himself if he does not recognize the body [of Christ]. |
Subject: communion: symbolic or something more? |
Bible Note: You wrote: "Jesus' words in verse 25 of 1Corinthians 11 says that "this cup is the new covenant in my blood". It is with the cup of Communion that he establishes his covenant." Only if 'cup is covenant' (your first sentence) is taken symbolically can your second sentence avoid saying 'Jesus established the covenant with the covenant'. I disagree with neither of your sentences, separately or together -- only with your unstated conclusion. In asking where the "must" came from, I was suggesting that your remark, "Since the covenant that Jesus instituted is the Lords Supper, that same presence must be manifest in the elements of the covenant", was a non-sequitur. As far as I understand your new note -- in essence assertion rather than an argued case -- I now feel sure it is a non-sequitur. This is my first foray onto this board, which I thought was about questions and answers on Bible verses and passages. I'm not up for doctrine wars, and I do wonder how much all this stuff is really helpful (or even meant to be helpful) to the enquirer, proffitt_79? Forgive me, please, if I sit this one out! |