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NASB | Romans 11:25 ¶ For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery--so that you will not be wise in your own estimation--that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 11:25 ¶ I do not want you, believers, to be unaware of this mystery [God's previously hidden plan]--so that you will not be wise in your own opinion--that a partial hardening has [temporarily] happened to Israel [to last] until the full number of the Gentiles has come in; |
Subject: Levitate, go to heaven, or the City? |
Bible Note: Question: Does this parable in light of other scripture, lend us to believe that Jesus is a) preparing a place; b) will come for His bribe; and finally c) bring the whole city of Jerusalem with Him (Rev 21-22)? Therefore, do we still have God dwelling with man on the Earth which is made new? Answer A Yes I believe Jesus is preparing a place, I think that place is the New Jerusalem. B. Yes Jesus will return for his bride and take her with him for wedding feast. C. Yes Jesus will then lead us to the New Earth and He and God will dwell in the New Jerusalem among his people, that then will be heaven since heaven is where God is. Also, Paul used pagan and cultural points many times in his letters. Remember, he is not speaking to Jews in Galilee who live in these Insulas (households), but to Gentiles living in Roman cities in Asia Minor Your right I used the words Roman and pagan I should have used European since European culture had Emperors and Kings that moved in processions as you described. Your right Paul was speaking to gentiles but they middle eastern culture and they hated the Romans and European culture. I have heard the rumors of Diocletian requiring marks on the hand but I have never found a noted historian secular or religious that documents this. If you have something by a legitimate research historian I would love to read it. Until then I think it is best left in the myth file. Yes I know of the other reference illustrations to pagan or Roman culture but let’s go back to context. We are talking eternity, death, and what happens next. I think the writer would want to use illustrations that would cause peace and reassurance not something that may also stir up ill feelings. What is more soothing than the idyllic wedding scene, with all the joy and happiness of the new bride and groom and everyone that was going to partake in the wedding feast. No I don’t think they were referring to a Roman Emperor returning victorious from a campaign leading the procession of common people who were actually wishing they were the king rather than a participant in the celebration. You keep pressing this issue and I think you miss my point. The present heaven is not where we spend eternity. Yes we go there for a period of time but we return with Jesus and God and dwell through eternity on the New Earth living in the New Jerusalem. Yes God is among his people. EdB |