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NASB | Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the [preaching of the] message concerning Christ. |
Subject: Wisdom has to be believed to get saved? |
Bible Note: My Dear Azure, you are right about me needing to pray some more for this professor. We had about two weeks of debate about this issue via email because I went out evangelizing with the man and went to a fellow students house where we with unbelievers. In the first instance the professor was giving people theological arguments to try and prove that there is a God without proving that Jesus is God out in the park. If he could convince people that there is a God, then and only then, would he give them the saving message of the gospel. In the second instance we were gathered together, believers and unbelievers studying Mathew 7:1-5 discussing what a log in your eye means and what a measure of judgment is and the unbelievers were never given the saving message of the gospel. This is in my mind a great travesty, a lost opportunity and is besides being unequally yoked to unbelievers in ministry and is also equippig unbelievers with Godly wisdom as if they were already saved. In the class the contxt was talking about what is necessary to happen to an unbeliever in order to get saved and his reply was that first you have to have the knowledge of Christ's atonement, then you need to understand the wisdom derived from that knowledge in order to believe and be saved. And the scripture he gave was Colossians 1:9,10, which as you saw does not apply to unbelievers, but to believers. I agree with you that Romans 10:14-17 applies better than what he said, you need to hear the message of a saving faith in Christ and as saving faith comes by hearing the message. According to verse 14, then they can believe once they have heard. Obviously they have to understand the message in order to believe it, but where does grasping the wisdom that the message contains beyond the grasping simple knowledge of the simple message become a necessary requirement? The wisdom that is in the message of a saving faith of Christ can get pretty deep, you mean to tell me a person has to understand all that to get saved? That would include election, predestination, all of the doctrine of salvation, the doctrine of God, the doctrine of the Holy Spirit, the doctrine of Christ and on and on. This man has gone so far as to say that the wisdom that Jesus taught in the parables and the Sermon on the Mount and so on has the power to draw people to a saving faith in Christ. Azure, I have confronted this professor over and over, I am so done... God Bless, Tamara |