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AMPLIFIED 2015 | Acts 4:24 And when they heard it, they raised their voices together to God and said, "O Sovereign Lord [having complete power and authority], it is You who MADE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA, AND EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THEM, [Ex 20:11; Ps 146:6] |
Subject: Is God in absolut contrl over all things |
Bible Note: Don’t give up so soon ................................................. Dear John, We’ve had such a good discussion so far on these issues, I was dissapointed to read your last post. I couldn’t find any response to any of my clarifications as to why the Tom and Jerry analogy was an accurate representation of the Calvinist viewpoint. I also couldn’t find that you had answered whether or not Tom or Jerry’s choice was truly FREE. Basically, I couldn’t find anything relating to our thread at all. ................................................. Instead, I found statements that “God created all things” (OK), Adam and Eve “had the liberty (FREEDOM) to do good but also posessed the ABILITY as well” (OK), “God was not taken aback” by the fall of mankind (OK), and God was not forced to “go to Plan B” (OK). These are all fine statements, but both Calvinists and Arminians agree on them. So I don’t see how they relate to why Calvinists think that the Arminian viewpoint negates God’s sovereignity. ................................................. Then I found the statement, “You and I are way out of our depth. I for one am very leary of bringing God Almighty before the Court Of Human Reason. We must rely on that which has been revealed in Scripture and shun mere conjecture. “ You then went on to say that if it was in the Bible then you would believe it, but it’s not, so you don’t. That sounds great, but I believe it to be a “cop out” in this case. The Bible says that we should “reason together” (Isa 1:18), and it is not bringing God before the court of reason for two believers to discuss together how to make sense of some ideas in scripture which are widely recognized as being a bit tricky to understand :) And as for whether it’s in the Bible or not, both perspectives seem to be in the Bible. That is why there have been so many Christians throughout the centuries who have interpreted it both ways. ................................................. Please don’t take this post as an insult. In fact, the reason that I was dissapointed by your last post, is because I have come to expect good things out of you. Your other posts have been excellent for staying on topic, and making consistent progress as we explore these issues together. I hope to encourage you to keep up the good work of the former posts, and avoid posts in the future that just “push the mystery button” and say, well we can’t fully understand God, so why try? |