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Subject: Who is the we in John 4:20? |
Bible Note: Hi KINDNESS, I wish to thank Tim and Sandman for their work here in this study of John 4:20-22. They have persuaded me to make some changes in "my personal copy". Verse 22 reads,..."we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews." I had capitalized the "We" thinking that because the word "people" was not in the Greek that the "you" and the "we" were talking of Deity. You have all convinced me otherwise and I will leave my NASB just as written for those verses. However, in the light of what we have all been saying about the place of worship I would like you to consider changing your "personal copies" concerning the spirit in verses 23 and 24. Would you consider this reading from "my person copy" for whatever it is worth. John 4:23, "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and truth." Is this interpretation, using the capitalization of Spirit, not what we have all been saying? Where else was Jesus suggesting that He be worshiped if not in Spirit? Verse 21 says *an hour is coming* when "neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father." Verse 22 is the key, for by verse 23 "an hour is coming, and now is." Our answer is in those verses of Spirit and truth. Compare John 4:26, John 8:54, and John 14:17 John 4:26,"Jesus said to her, "I who speak to you am *He." John 8:53, "Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? The prophets died too; whom do You make Yourself out to be?" Jesus answered, "If I glorify Myself, My glory is nothing; it is My Father who glorifies Me, of whom you say, "He is our *God";" John 14:17, "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; that is the *Spirit of truth,..." |