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Subject: Isn't Jesus Christ the True Isael to who |
Bible Note: Hi Ray, Well that was an ear full. You are right that it was a blessing for Jacob to come out of that "match" alive cosidering the other Person was his Creator. I think Jacob was humbled in the sence that by giving his name as Jacob (what do you say it means?) he was confessing that the blessing he got from Isaac was by deception and invalid. His mom was told that the younger would be chosen over Esau and receive the blessing Gen.25:19-28. But Rebekah and Jacob scheamed together to get it because they didn't understand God's ways or trust Him to intervene to carry out His promise. So in Gen.32 I agree jacob was scared and knew he was in trouble but he also knew unless God blessed him his father Isaac's blessing was of none effect. In nameing Jacob, Israel God was telling us and him that there was a heart change in Jacob, I believe. At that point in his life he became dependant upon God and trusted God would fulfill His promise in Gen.25:23 is the way i see it. Israel later became the name for the 12 tribes that made up the nation through which God would send the final promised One Jesus Christ the Messiah through whom all the promises of God are fulfilled. Do you agree with this? You may be right about Jacob not realizing that in his flesh dwelled no good thing since that is found in the NT after the Holy Spirit was given. But can any of us have an encounter with the living and true God without seeing the difference between what is Holy and not Holy? Without God in out lives we can not produce any good thing by God's standards. Correct? I appreciate your imput Ray. It gives me somthing to meditate on as I go through my day. Keep in touch. Kindness PS When you say Jacob "earned" a name change what do you mean? Do you believe in GRACE as in Eph. 2:8-10 or do you believe we earn blessing and salvation by our good works? |