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Bible Note: Hi KINDNESS, Thank you for the vague compliment about being a possible English teacher. If I were, then I would have to talk to you about Jacob the *schemer, and the supplanter* and you would not thank me for that. :) I don't see any humbleness in Jacob; and I didn't find your quote of "in his flesh dwells no good thing" either, by the way. What I see in Jacob is a scared man who knew that if he didn't get a blessing from God he was in real big trouble. The passage in Genesis 32:28 tells us that Jacob strove with God and prevailed so I guess that would say that he won. He earned a name change and he was also blessed by God there. I go with the NKJ version as far as capitalization there by the way. However, if I won a wrestling match and came away with a limp while my competition went away unscathed, I would be slow in proclaiming myself a winner. I could hear people asking me, "What does the other guy look like?" In that sense, I would proclaim it a "tie". But again, as I've said, I don't see any humbleness in Jacob. Jacob said in Genesis 32:30, "I have seen (God) face to face, yet my life has been preserved." (Parenthesis mine for comparison). Earlier in Genesis 16:13, concerning Hagar, Sara's maid; "Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, 'Thou art a God who sees', for she said, 'Have I even remained alive here after seeing (Him?)'" I believe that Jacob was very blessed just for living through his wrestling match with the Lord. Later, in Genesis 35:7, "And he built an altar there, and called the place El-bethel, because there God had revealed (Himself) to him, when he fled from his brother." Genesis 35:9 "Then God appeared to Jacob again when he came from Paddanaram and He blessed him. And God said to him, "Your name if Jacob; You (sic) shall no longer be called Jacob, But Israel shall be your name." Thus, He called him Israel. God also said to him, "I am God Almighty;..."" So in my mind we see the difference between this man and the Man whom he wrestled. We see the difference in this man who calls himself the "right hand" by means of his name for Rachel's son Ben-oni; and the God who says to him "I am God Almighty." Again, I don't see humbleness in Jacob. I want to talk to you about the other verses, but...Later, Ray |