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Bible Question:
Regarding Rom.11:1 and the future of Israel's future have you considered John 15:1 where Jesus identifies Himself as the True Vine(Israel) and that all who believe in Him have life. When Jesus Christ arrived in the flesh and tabernacled among us didn't He replace the old unbelieving house of Israel who's house was left unto them desolate? Are not all the promises of God now fulfilled in Christ? Isn't Jesus the long awaited Son of David in whom, by whom, and for whom, all of God's Word is fulfilled. Isn't the new heart promised to Israel given to believers at the time of the new birth in Christ. Doesn't Peter say that believers are a chosen people, a royal priesthood a holy nation, His own special people.. ? Doesn't Paul say that in Christ there is neither Jew or Greek etc. and that both are reconciled to God in one Body through the cross.... and that through Him we both Jew and Gentile have access by one Spirit to the Father? If Jesus Christ is the true Israel the Prince with God, the Prince of Peace then all must come the same way and The Gospel of Jesus Christ is what we need to focus on until He returns and brings in the New Heaven and the New Earth. Please use this as a grid to look at Rom.11:1 and tell me why it doesn't fit. Thank you , Kindness |
Bible Answer: Hi Kindness, Welcome to the forum. I wish you had given your Scripture references as you stated them to make them easier to compare. Some of the phrases I was not familiar with; like "old unbelieving house of Israel" and "Prince with God", and "true Israel". Perhaps you could list those references for us. I don't follow the sequence of your quoted Scriptures but they all sound good. As a person interested in capitalization let me look at what I see that you wrote. We read in the Scriptures of the true God but I couldn't find any true Israel. I wonder if you think of Israel more highly than you ought to think? I don't think of Israel as the True Vine. Even Jesus in John 15:l says that "I am the true vine." in lower case. Again, welcome to the forum as I think this is your first contribution. Later, Ray |