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NASB | Mark 7:9 ¶ He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Mark 7:9 ¶ He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside and nullifying the commandment of God in order to keep your [man-made] tradition and regulations. |
Subject: Church Fathers? Part V |
Bible Note: Isaiah 55:8-9 (NASB) 8 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD. 9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts. I think trying to make a statement about God’s logic in comparison to man’s logic is a huge over step. God’s logic so far exceeds ours that there is no comparison. We can on base on our logic and things we believe are true but God’s logic is based on fact. No I don’t think you do understand the anti-intellectual aspect of some in the church. You may have heard it expressed and formed your opinion about it but I don’t think you understand at all. Man imagination is tainted with sin, as is his thinking and his logic. Many times that tainted intellect if you will devises thoughts that sound good to man but are path to death. Proverbs 16:25 (NKJV) 25 There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death. In another post I believe you said we must use logic to understand Genesis 1-3. I pray that is not how you read scripture. I pray you read scripture not with your minds eye but with Holy Spirit opening your spirit eye. Faith can not be found in logic or intellect faith must come into the spirit birthed by the Holy Spirit. No offense but it sounds like your passion is more for your intellect than for closer relationship with Jesus. I never expect to instruct a Reformed person anymore than I would expect to instruct any from another denomination. What I try to do it get that person to allow the Holy Spirit to instruct them to the truth that only the Holy Spirit can impart. Man can not change the heart of another man only God can do that. To much is quoted these days by men that deny the full ministry of the Holy Spirit, and rather than seeing this failing within themselves they beat their chest and talk of the their mastery of logic and superb intellect. Or they allow others. Yet men that are in the trenches, touching and changing lives mostly do so in total anonymity, certain having never been quoted. The most powerful churches/preachers in the world today are the ones no one ever mentions. I am not suggesting we put on minds in neutral, to reject education, to seek ignorance. What I’m saying is many times our minds, our intellect, our logic stands in the way of us realizing the truth the Holy Spirit is trying to reveal to us. I once had a student come to me and explain that after 4 years of Bible College, 2 year of graduate work and a year in Seminary that he viewed the Bible as a technical manual. He had been so trained to think, to reason, to express, to rationalize that he lost all connection to the living word as living word. It was dead as any other text book he carried. He might have treasured the poise or thoughts but it was just another book to him. |