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NASB | Matthew 6:15 "But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 6:15 "But if you do not forgive others [nurturing your hurt and anger with the result that it interferes with your relationship with God], then your Father will not forgive your trespasses. |
Subject: Does this apply to Christians? |
Bible Note: Greetings Bill! I would have responded much more quickly if I didn't have a job working 2nd shift. I apologize if my 2 posts on this issue were taken as an "attack", and no, I do not think of you as a heretic! :) Bill, I think that we are misunderstanding each other here and using Scripture to try to correct each other when we need to stand back and see where we actually agree.. You have stated.. "1) I believe that I am a forgiven person as are ALL believers. I do still sin but my sins ARE forgiven. My sins were ALL forgiven at the cross 2000 years ago only by Christ shedding His blood, not by my confession of them. I had committed none of those sins 2000 years ago when He died, but I believe that the cross was an eternal act of God (Christ was slain before the foundation of the world) and that He saw and bore ALL my sins in His body back then. And that His blood washed them ALL away. In other words, it is a done deal just like my redemption, reconciliation, justification, etc. I believe that I have been (past tense) reconciled to God and that, because of Christ sacrifice, my sins are no longer held against me." And I agree with this 100 percent! You have also stated, "2) Some on this forum believe that forgiveness must continually be asked for as sins are committed. They infer that Christ administers forgiveness only at repentance, whether believers or not. They also feel that if a Christian doesn't forgive others, then they will not be forgiven. They believe in keeping short accounts with God so that they do not lose fellowship with Him." No, I am not saying that we are keeping "short accounts" with God. I believe that you are correct in what you have said! But my argument is that when a Christian does sin, they must repent of that sin (divorce themselves from it), be at peace that Christ has forgiven them of that sin, and go and sin no more. I do believe that He has forgiven all of our sins before they have ever been committed. What I am trying to say is that repentance is still something that is essential for the believer as it is the non-believer who comes to Christ. And by reading the posts that were written after this post that I am replying to, I would come to the conclusion that you would agree with this. Blessings to you and keep up the good work on the Forum, my friend. Nolan |