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NASB | Matthew 6:14 "For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 6:14 "For if you forgive others their trespasses [their reckless and willful sins], your heavenly Father will also forgive you. |
Bible Question:
Dear schwartzkm, Yes this is a strawman. I am attempting to demonstrate that it is dangerous to take one scripture (in this case Matthew 6:14) and say that this applies to all people for all time, and that it is the heart of the forgiveness issue. And while I know that no Christian group teaches OT sacrifice, I feel that my argument is a valid one. I have not used the sabbath because the central issue here is the forgiveness of sins and I am trying to stay with that subject. Forgiveness of sins has always been based upon Hebrews 9:22, the shedding of blood. This forgiveness was credited in the OT by the atonement (covering) of the blood of animals (which pointed to Christ). The forgiveness of sins in the NT is secured by the shedding of our Lord's blood - nothing else. Steve's point is that, in his view, looking only at Matthew 6:14, forgiveness is based upon forgiving others. If this view is correct, then Christ's death and blood was unneccessary, indeed needless. All we would have to do to get forgiveness of our sins from God is to forgive our fellow man for their sins and this act alone would make us right or wrong with a holy God. Does the rest of NT scripture substantiate this lop-sided view? In Christ, Bill Mc |
Bible Answer: Matt 18:22-35 23Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. 25But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. 26The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' 27"Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. 28But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!' 29"So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' 30"And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. 31So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. 32Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?' 34"And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. 35So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses." "The parable of the unmerciful servant teaches that men who have experienced God's forgiveness are accountable to display forgiveness toward others. This is the standard of the kingdom of heaven (see comment on Matt 13:11)." Tyndale Commentary It seems we will be held accountable for not operating in forgivness. I don't think it means we are not saved and I don't believe that is what Steve is saying. What I am saying is we as believers will be held accountable if we choose not to forgive others who have wronged us. |